| The slanting slavic eyes that can glitter so threateningly give Alan Rickman a sinister and brooding presence on the screen; but in a hotel in Holland Park he pours out a friendly cup of tea without showing a shred of menace. What makes him so jolly hard to pin down is that he never does the same kind of thing twice.
His cinematic impact is very particular. Until he arrives on the screen in An Awfully Big Adventure, Mike Newell's film of Beryl Bainbridge's tale of a stage-struck girl in a local rep theatre in wartime Liverpool, Hugh Grant appears to be the romantic interest. Then whoosh, O'Hara (Rickman) arrives like the bad guy in a Western, roaring up north on a motorbike with a backpack, rendering every other male character, including Grant, insubstantial and homouncular next to Rickman's enigmatic but definitely macho physical presence. The rise of Alan Rickman was not meteoric, so when he first came within the popular gaze he already had a vintage lived-in look. Before he became an actor at all, he had another life altogether. At Latymer Upper School in Hammersmith (an ancient, independent foundation whose old boys include Hugh Grant, Mel Smith and George Walden, MP) drama and performance were encouraged: every Christmas boys and masters took part in a revue called 'Chantaculum'. It was his form master, the late Colin Turner, who propelled him on stage at the age of eleven: Rickman's performance as Volumnia, mother of Coriolanus, was thought memorable But acting as a career was not considered. He thinks it is mad to have to make lifetime decisions at that age, but when torn between an English degree or art school, he heard a small, quiet voice inside his head (the same voice which, in a restaurant, tells you to have fish and salad, while 'this wild bruiser of a will' goes ahead and orders regrettable things instead) telling him that art was what he should do. He went to Chelsea Art College, then to the Royal College of Art and set up a design company called Graphiti in the late Sixties. They designed LP sleeves, book jackets and a subversive left-wing free-sheet with the misleadingly conventional title of the Notting Hill Herald. They had a studio in Berwick Street, in the heart of Soho: 'with white walls, sanded floors, trestle tables and no capital ... and it was very heaven'. So how do you throw up graphic design and go to RADA? 'You get a piece of paper and a pen,' Rickman says patiently, in his slow, laid-back voice, 'and you write, "Dear RADA, please give me an audition". And you watch yourself putting it in an envelope, sticking a stamp on it and putting it in the letter box. And you watch yourself doing these things because you have set in motion events which will change your life.' When I voiced surprise that anyone could walk into RADA off the street and audition, he said, rather crossly, why shouldn't they? That was how it should be. 'It's bad enough now that RADA is going to become just another finishing school, because grants are becoming so difficult only people who can afford to go will go.' I said anyone going into journalism (he tends to voice a ritual irritation with all journalists) would at least have written something first. 'Of course, there is more to it than just walking on to a stage. And the acting profession suffers from not getting as much support or respect for its training as dancers or opera singers, neither of whom would dream of walking on to a stage without working on the instrument.' Quite. At RADA he won every prize going. Then followed years at Bristol and with the RSC. Thus he was in his mid-forties by the time he played Juliet Stevenson's importunate ghostly boyfriend in Truly Madly Deeply, and gave the Sheriff of Nottingham such amusing overtones in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, and was named Best Actor in the Evening Standard Film Awards. Last year, BBC2's The Late Show ran a programme devoted to Rickman, filmed in Hungary during the shooting of Mesmer, his first leading film role as the eighteenth-century visionary healer, scripted by the late Dennis Potter. What came across was his intelligent and painstaking immersion in the role, and the intensity of his approach to every detail of the film's development. (It is entirely in character that Rickman enquired why the cast of Hungarian extras, masquerading as the cream of Viennese society in powdered wigs, had been given only bread rolls for lunch while the cast had hot food). But you have not seen Mesmer yet, because it is locked away in a dispute with the distributors. Rickman was caught, during The Late Show documentary, gloomily prophesying exactly this. What went wrong? 'It is possible they were expecting a more commercial film ... with a different ending, a happy ending,' he says. At Potter's memorial service, Alan Rickman read from Mesmer's words; and the next day found himself saying the same things at an arbitration meeting with the film's distributors. So we must wait to be mesmerized by that performance. Meanwhile, on to something completely different. The first play he has directed, Sharman Macdonald's The Winter Guest - elliptical, elegiac, gently moving and funny - has just opened at the Almeida Theatre in London after first airing at the West Yorkshire Playhouse in Leeds. Rickman was himself largely responsible for its being written. As a script-reader for Jenny Topper at the Bush Theatre in the early Eighties he first spotted the potential of Macdonald's When I was a Girl I used to Scream and Shout, submitted under the pen name of Pearl Stewart. Later he introduced Macdonald to Lindsay Duncan, his co-star in Les Liaisons Dangereuses. 'Lindsay is wonderful raconteur, a great natural wit and an immensely compassionate person, and she used to tell stories about her mother, who had Alzheimer's, that were sad and funny in equal measure.' The result is The Winter Guest, with Phyllida Law (Emma Thompson's mother), who gives an exquisite performance as the mother. Two hours after the curtain came down on the first night of The Winter Guest in Leeds, Rickman was on his way to Gatwick for a flight to Dallas, then to Salt Lake City and the Sundance film festival to launch An Awfully Big Adventure to the American press. After this jet-lagging journey he was disgourged outside a cinema at night in a snowbound street, and as he tried to enter the cinema a heavy hand stopped him and said, 'Hey where's your ticket?' He laughs. Filming has come 'like a great present' in the last six years. It has improved his stage work, he thinks since: 'You become better acquainted with stillness. On film you put all your energies into a single glance.' That is certainly true in An Awfully Big Adventure; but to say more would be to divulge the denouement. After the farcically gripping Die Hard in 1988 everyone assumed he would be lost to Hollywood. Hans Gruber was a cartoon character ('You didn't wonder what he had for breakfast did you?') though it must be said, he played him admirably. 'My life became a cartoon too at that point. I'd just finished on Broadway doing this tough play [Les Liaisons Dangereuses] and suddenly I moved from the dark into the neon light. 'It was great fun to do, and the offers did roll in. But you don't always want to do the same thing again. A life of endless repetition wouldn't make sense at any level.' But it made his name bankable enough to let him choose what he wants to do, based almost entirely on a good script: 'You either want to say those lines, or you don't.' In 1992, he was a notable Hamlet at the Riverside Studios. 'Darling,' says Thelma Holt, his producer, 'I've seen more Hamlets than I've had hot dinners; I spent eighteen months of my life playing Gertrude. I know that play better than any other, and with no disrespect to any of my other Hamlets, Alan Rickman was the Hamlet of my life. He did something rare: he told a story, and it was as if it was a new play. People always wonder what will he do with "To be" and "Rogue and peasant'; yet I could not have predicted how he would say them. Everything was new.' In the same year, by contrast, he directed his friend Ruby Wax in her one-woman show, Wax Acts. 'People assume she just stands at the mike and delivers routines.' he says. 'But she is the most deeply serious person about her work, tussling with very personal material about herself and her parents. It was achingly funny but you can't be alone on stage for two hours without a sense of structure and a lot of bloody hard work.' He is a political animal but when I invite him to talk about his politics he says simply 'No'. He explains that he feels superstitious, because of what happened just before the last election when Labour's hopes were so unexpectedly dashed at the eleventh hour. 'I'm watching to see how the Left will redefine itself. But I feel I'm looking down the wrong end of a telescope. I can't quite see it's shape, so I'm not going to talk about it.' His political views inform all he does: Thelma Holt says his sense of social justice makes him a humane actor and a generous director. He welcomes the change in the council of Equity, the actors' union: 'Equity really is a microcosm of the country: the twinset and pearl brigade right next to the jeans and T-shirts, people of all ages involved in the same activity. Now we've got Michael Cashman and Charlotte Cornwell on the council, so a compassionate voice is there and things are really changing. 'But I feel superstitiousness, a watchfulness and a nervousness about whether the sea change will happen in the country as a whole. If we don't change, almost for the sake of change, then I really believe this is an exhausted nation.' He is one of the few of his generation who has managed to avoid picking up at least one wife and several children and a dog along the way. He guards his private life with ferocity - hence our meeting on neutral ground - reasoning that no actor's professional standing is enhanced by having his domestic life exposed Hello! magazine-style. 'It's so unfair on the people involved. She [his partner, an academic] has nothing to do with all this. And I really resent it when her name gets mentioned. It makes life hard for her.' I am reminded of Dame Edith Evans who once responded ringingly to a reporters' question about her husband: 'It is not of the slightest interest to anyone but myself, to know to whom I am married.' He says he is 'still living the life where you get home and open the fridge and there's half a pot of yoghurt and a half a can of flat Coca-Cola.' Prolonging a student lifestyle beyond all chronological probability? 'It's just a life on the move, really, and that's the way I prefer it. I like to present a moving target.' He has been on the move so much he is the only person in the world who has not yet seen Mike Newell's previous film, Four Weddings and a Funeral. 'Nothing gives me as much pleasure as travelling. I love getting on trains and boats and planes.' He made Quigley Down Under partly because he wanted to see the Australian outback. He went to Russia with The Brothers Karamozov. The Liverpool of An Awfully Big Adventure was recreated in Dublin 'where I was very aware of being a Celt in the land of my ancestors. My blood is awash with Welsh and Irishness which probably explains a lot about a lot.' Meaning? 'What I hope it means is being not closed.' The camera loves him. 'I can't stand watching anything I'm in, so I have no opinion about that. All I think about acting is, the camera likes you if it can see you thinking and most importantly, listening. All you are is this bundle of half-formed instincts and inadequate technique, aiming itself at the project, hoping something identifiable forms ... and hoping it will involve the audience. You hand yourself over to the medium. I think there's some connection between absolute discipline and absolute freedom. When I am asked about influences, I always say I bow down to Fred Astair, because when you look at him dancing you never look at his extremities, do you? You look at his centre. What you never see is the hours of work that went into the routines, you just see the breathtaking spirit and freedom. 'At the end of The Tempest, when Prospero lets Ariel go at the same time he chains Caliban to him, I think Shakespeare was saying something about the creative act: and of course it's impossible to do, but it's worth having a go at it. The greatest singing and dancing and painting is the freest and simplest, and there is years of work behind it. It's the same with Picasso, Matisse, the Japanese scroll painters - it's not just sloshing colour on a piece of blank paper, it's the tiny, disciplined muscles creating a single brushstroke.' |
| Alan Rickman is famous mainly for being insufficiently famous. The man who stole Die Hard from Bruce Willis and Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves from Kevin Costner, who dominated Anthony Minghella's Truly Madly Deeply and Stephen Poliakoff's Close My Eyes with his fascinating, slightly reptilian authority, should be a huge global star by now. Why, in his late 40s, he isn't, is only one of several puzzles about him.
Maybe Alan Rickman is doing too many different things, when the media loves a man to be one thing in one place at one time. Maybe this intensely private man is too unwilling to play the game. In Rickman's vocabulary, "journalism" is a dirty word, and he has granted a interview less because he has one film arriving imminently (this month's An Awfully Big Adventure) and another on the horizon (Mesmer), and more because he's trying something different yet again. This time he's directing a play he was partly responsible for commissioning: The Winter Guest by Sharman Macdonald which runs at London's Almeida Theatre until the end of April. Rickman has always worked in the serious (as opposed to commercial) theatre, his big break coming when he played the destructive, seductive French aristocrat Valmont in the Royal Shakespeare Company's production of Les Liaison Dangereuses. He was passed over for the role in both film versions - Stephen Frears went for John Malkovich in Dangerous Liaisons and Milos Forman chose Colin Firth in Valmont - but his movie career took off when he played the German terrorist Hans Gruber in Die Hard and, later the Sheriff of Nottingham in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Standard Hollywood villain roles, definitely, but Rickman was absolutely riveting in both. Rather than capitalise on what no doubt could have been a very cushy existence in Hollywood, however, Rickman has gone down the less glamorous path of low-budget independents, and his career continues to develop in eccentric fashion. Mesmer, from a Dennis Potter script about the 18th-century precursor of hypnotism, is Rickman's first solo film lead. It may be some time before it's possible to judge the results: the film is currently locked in a legal row between its makers and its UK distributors, Mayfair, who are refusing to accept delivery on the grounds that it's not the film they paid for. On a happier front, Rickman is sharing top billing with Hugh Grant in Mike Newell's An Awfully Big Adventure. Adapted from the Beryl Bainbridge novel, the story centres on a girl (Georgina Cates) who becomes assistant stage manager at the Liverpool Playhouse, falls in love with its nasty actor-manager (Hugh Grant) and loses her virginity to the motorbike-riding leading man P.L. O'Hara (Rickman) during a production of Peter Pan. Asked about the differences between directing Hugh Grant and Alan Rickman, Mike Newell has this to say: "Hugh is light and larky and enormously versatile and his playing of this vicious gay actor-manager is a real performance. But with Alan I was very very careful - I'd picked up the vibes that Alan was prickly and immensely choosey, that if he chose you, oh God, what was it that you had to live up to? When you talk to him, he's always a very square peg in a very round hole." "But he's very charismatic on screen," Newell continues, "and like all the really good ones, he's a collaborator. Alan is neurotic but intense, incredibly focused and authoritative as an actor. All his insecurities as a person are completely healed by acting." Indeed, say what you will about Alan Rickman, but there is no doubt he is a committed actor who brings both a self-mockery and a sense of incipient disillusionment to every role he plays. Rickman is a master of this heightened distortion between comedy and tragedy that has become a hallmark of late 20th-century acting. A streak of nastiness is also crucial to his appeal: men admire this sardonic power-in-reserve, women respond to its sexual implications, not to mention that voice and those eyes. Standing today in the Almeida Wine Bar after rehearsals for his play, dressed in a navy blue donkey jacket, red tartan trousers and black boots, Rickman is going through a few script points with a couple of young actors while music reverberates loudly in the background. His voice is resonant but sleepy, and he suggests we transfer to the quiet of the empty Almeida Theatre. For the record - because Alan Rickman will not discuss his private life - he currently lives in Notting Hill with an economics lecturer named Rima Horton; they have no children. What sort of family do you come from? I don't want to drag anyone anywhere. I just want to know a bit about your background. Well, that's a start. I know you worked as a graphic artist for three years before deciding to attend the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art when you were 27. Why the sudden switch? Is the kind of world conjured up by the amateur theatricals in An Awfully Big Adventure something you're familiar with? What were you like back then? Was that a healthy thing? You've said that when you read the part for An Awfully Big Adventure you knew immediately how to play it. Have you ever just taken off and sailed into the wild blue yonder? Are some characters closer to you than others? What was your greatest fear when you were making An Awfully Big Adventure? When I saw Mike Newell directing Into The West, rather than get angry, he would stalk off like Basil Fawlty... Was yours a smooth transition from acting to directing your first play? How did you approach directing? Do you hope to direct more, or are you at heart an actor? But isn't it also to do with the idea that in order to be really good at something you have to be wholly absorbed by it? What matters to you about your work? Do you read your reviews? Is that because you don't care or because you care too much? Have you ever as a result of bad reviews simply wanted to disappear, like Stephen Fry, from public view? If you had to choose between one and the other, where would you go - theatre or film? Do you feel the need to reinvent yourself as an actor? Do you have a theory of acting? Your most recent stage role was Hamlet. How do you renew Hamlet? Yes, of course. A great play is always new. Um...what qualities do you admire in an actor? Are you a fit instrument? But you are a member of a health club. Do you ever go? One of the things which is appealing about you is your misfit quality, that you are a maverick... Let's put it another way - you could be a huge star but seem to resist the road to iconic status. Do you ever hanker after the kind of stardom that Hugh Grant, your Awfully Big Adventure co-star, now has? You've been called a scene stealer - admiringly, of course. Or a film stealer in the case of Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Do you recognise this when you watch yourself on screen? Mike Newell said that before he started shooting An Awfully Big Adventure he'd been thinking, Oh God, I'm going to work with Alan Rickman, he's so choosy, how can I ever live up to the fact that he's chosen me? Like who? Willy? Does Hollywood still interest you? Isn't that a slightly melancholy fact? What did you make of your time in Hollywood? What about directing a movie yourself? Are you drawn to particular kinds of stories? What have you seen recently that you've enjoyed? Ultimately, do you find acting a limiting profession? How do you feel about what's happened to Mesmer? What are your immediate plans? So what's the buzz in being an actor? No more questions. |
| "There's a bug on your hand," BOXOFFICE informs Alan Rickman.
"Oh, I don't mind," he says in a gentle tone, delicately brushing the insect away while making sure not to injure the creature. "Go on, fly away," he tells it tenderly. It's conclusive proof that the actor who thought nothing of annihilating innumerable humans in such films as Die Hard and Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves in real life would not hurt a fly. Of course, while Rickman is best known for his villainous characterizations, he has had equal success in portraying sensitive, sympathetic sorts in films like Truly, Madly, Deeply and Sense and Sensibility. And now, he takes on another persona, this time assuming a role behind the camera. As the director of The Winter Guest, Rickman tells the tale of four pairs of people and their perspectives on life. Set in a small Scottish town on the coldest day in history-so cold the sea has frozen over-The Winter Guest's central focus is the contentious yet loving relationship between a mother and daughter, played by real-life mother and daughter Phyllida Law and Emma Thompson. Intertwined into their account are the stories of a teenage couple (Gary Hollywood and Arlene Cockburn) falling in love; two 12-year-old boys (Douglas Murphy and Sean Biggerstaff) embarking on adventures; and two 65-year-old women (Sheila Reid and Sandra Voe) whose hobby is attending funerals of people they don't know. "You're there with [these characters] looking at life through generations," Rickman synopsizes. "And if that sounds a little somber, it shouldn't, because I hope that a lot of it is very funny." The material itself was commissioned by Rickman after many conversations with Lindsay Duncan, one of his co-stars in the Royal Shakespeare Company's production of Les Liaisons Dangereuses, about her relationship with her mother. Rickman brought some of the ideas that came from these anecdotes to writer Sharman Macdonald, who scripted a stage version, which premiered in England in 1995 and which Rickman directed with Phyllida Law starring. "When the notion for the piece came," Rickman recalls, "Sharman was the first person I thought of who should write it. I knew that it was her because of the fact that I had read her first play (When I Was a Girl I Used to Scream and Shout) when I was on a script panel at one of London's fringe theatres, and I'd recommended that it should be done. So it's sort of a full-circle thing. "There's quite a lot of full circles in this piece," Rickman muses, "what with Phyllida not being able to do the play until the time when we did it, because she'd been nursing her own mother and she couldn't do any theatre. And then the absolute moment I rang her to ask her if she would read it was when she was available to do theatre again. And then the fact that when the notion of the film came up, it so happened that the circle was turning and it was exactly the right time for Emma. Five years earlier and she would have been too young." Having a natural mother-daughter rapport already established with Law and Thompson was a boon, says Rickman, while acknowledging that "it might have been a nightmare. I can think of a few mother-daughter relationships that might not have worked at all on film. They might have been horribly competitive, or their real-life relationship might have been incredibly complicated to shake off in order to play a relationship that isn't theirs. As it happened, that wasn't the case. They're very different people, but they're very complementary. And they both have a huge amount of respect for each other as actors. And truth be told, after a while, you forget that they're mother and daughter, because they're two actors, and it would be an insult to treat them in any way other than as two actors. It's only really when you get to the editing room and suddenly in a shot, you get an echo of two profiles, or you see how fluid they are with each other in a scene where they're close, and the body language gives their relationship away. And then you realize how much of a bonus it has been." Reflecting on his feature directing debut, Rickman likens the filmmaking process to "an animal with many legs, and you keep finding another pair that you haven't put shoes on. It's a fantastically rewarding job," he adds, "but of course you're not aware of that at the time. When people say, `Do you enjoy it?', you kind of look back and think, `Now, was there a moment where I had time to say, "Am I enjoying this?" What Rickman is currently enjoying is the advance positive buzz from the Venice and Montreal film festivals. "I'm very happy that when people go and see it, it means a lot to them personally," he comments. "When the film ends, the conversation begins with the audience, and that's a new one every night it plays." Rickman doesn't have any more directorial projects lined up at the moment, but he says he's "sure I will do it again if and when there is a piece of writing that suggests itself. But it will always be based on the quality of the writing. And so now I will act." His next role will be another typecasting-buster: He'll be playing an angel in Kevin Smith's ethereally-tinged comedy Dogma. "The greatest thing is to be able to do something out of the blue that you couldn't have predicted and is free of any preconceptions. It would be wonderful to think that the future is unknown and sort of surprising." When asked if he's happy with the evolution of his career, Rickman replies pragmatically, "There's no point in not being, really. Because it's what it is. Chaotic, I suppose. But there's a line in the film when Phyllida says, `You've got to open up your heart and let chaos in.' So maybe that's a lesson that I've had to learn." The Winter Guest. Starring Emma Thompson and Phyllida Law. Directed by Alan Rickman. Written by Sharman Macdonald and Alan Rickman. Produced by Ken Lipper, Edward R. Pressman and Steve Clark-Hall. A Fine Line release. Drama. Opens Dec. 19. |
| Alan Rickman, one of Britain's most versatile screen and stage actors, happily and seemingly effortlessly bounces from hero to villain roles, from romantic period comedies to explosion-filled contemporary action films.
He played Hans Gruber, the ruthless terrorist, to Bruce Willis' protagonist in Die Hard; starred as the equally nefarious Sheriff of Nottingham, foe to Kevin Costner in Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves; and appeared as the shy and sensitive Col. Brandon opposite Emma Thompson in Sense and Sensibility. Now Rickman has reteamed with Thompson for The Winter Guest and has expanded his craft even further by moving behind the camera and making his directorial debut. Quiet and introspective, The Winter Guest, which opens December 25, examines the strained relationship between a recently widowed Scottish woman (Thompson) and her mother (played by Thompson's real-life mother Phyllida Law). Mother played part on stageRickman didn't have to work very hard to get Thompson and Law for the movie."Emma didn't do the play, while Phyllida played the mother in it; but whenever the film version came up, it was sort of automatically assumed that Emma would do it, too," he explains. "Of course, on an obvious level, she helped finance the project, but it's also a great part for her, as well as being a great gift to her mother, as she helped make it possible for a really wonderful performance to be recorded." Ask the director if there was any sense of competition between his two stars and he laughs. "No, fortunately they get on really well and you actually forget that they're mother and daughter. You just think, 'Here are these two noisy individuals who will not shut up!' You can't keep them quiet. You'd have to hit them over the head." Why did Rickman choose The Winter Guest as his first directorial effort? "I'd commissioned it in the theater, and so it was like I was glued to it," he says. "It wasn't a conscious choice, and I certainly didn't think it would be a movie. But then forces combined, and it seemed like a good idea. I definitely wasn't going to let anyone else muck about with it." Sink or swimThe actor could have picked an easier project with which to make his debut."We shot the whole movie on location in Scotland and had to build the interior in a grain store, so we didn't do anything in the safety of a studio, which proved to be a real problem," he admits. "On top of that, two-thirds of the film (takes place) outside, and most of those scenes are set on a beach with a frozen sea." In addition, the entire story takes place in just four hours, which means, the director explains, "You can't have hundreds of different sky conditions. And it was shot in October, November and December of last year, so we only had good light from 9 a.m. until 3 p.m., and none of the snow and ice that is such a (substantial) part of the film's background." Fortunately for Rickman and his team, modern technology in the form of high-end digital visual effects came to the rescue. "I couldn't have done the film without computer graphics," says the director, who claims he knew "absolutely nothing" about the technology before he started and now knows "almost nothing." "It was a bit like jumping in the deep end on your first film, but I believed in the script by playwright Sharman Macdonald, and it was about something that really mattered to me," he said. "If you're going to be driven by anything, it might as well be passion or belief in what you're doing. And I suppose I saw it as a challenge -- why not take it on?" Working closely, Rickman and effects supervisor-producer Steve Rundell created more than 75 digital shots for the film. "All the ice was created digitally. We had some clear blue skies that had to be digitally altered to match the rest, sea gulls were added digitally, and we even extended the natural mist at the end," reports Rickman. "There was one scene where we removed a figure, so it was partly cosmetic, partly incredibly creative -- and completely crucial to the look. Reliance on special effects"Basically this film couldn't have been made until now, because the level of sophistication allows the effects to be both believable and not really noticeable," adds Rickman."And I couldn't do the film without knowing that that whole side of it was going to be taken care of. It was either that or go to Iceland, and then it's too cold and you won't get the insurance to put your actors on the ice, and the architecture doesn't match. And we wouldn't have had the budget." Rickman scouted locations in Scotland "by just driving around everywhere until we found what we wanted. Everyone said we were mad trying to shoot there at that time of year, and I don't know how we ever got insurance or finance, but we did." The Winter Guest was shot on a $6 million budget. "We had about two months of preproduction when the art department got set up and the sets were designed and we put the crew together," he reports. "I knew from the very start we'd have to use a lot of effects shots, as the art department could give me maybe 100 yards of snow and ice -- but I knew I needed a horizon, and it had to look like infinity." Rickman: Restraints spurred creativityShooting for the effects was "fairly exacting," Rickman says. "So the guys had to come in and tell us whether we could have minimal camera movement, or if it had to be a locked-off shot every time the sea appeared in frame."Did such technical restraints limit Rickman's artistic vision? "Not at all," the director says, "because I think that true creativity is also linked to discipline. Even if it's just a budget nailing you down, it helps creativity. "It was a great experience, and sometimes it was just awful," sums up Rickman, "but I imagine that's true of any film. You can't predict what it's going to be like, but I'm very proud of the results. We even finished on time and on budget. It was a scramble, but we did it." Is Rickman eager to repeat the experience of directing? "With the right project, absolutely," he says. "And even another one with special effects. In fact, my next film is full of them, though this time I'm appearing as an actor. I'm playing an angel in Kevin Smith's new film, Dogma, so there's a lot of wings sprouting out of people's backs." |
| Among the fruits of the 1995 critically acclaimed film Sense and Sensibility is the friendship it fostered between actors Alan Rickman and Emma Thompson. Thompson, who starred in that film and wrote its Academy Award-winning screenplay, created a part specifically for Rickman, and the two got on famously during the shoot.
So when it came time for Rickman to make his directorial debut, The Winter Guest, which opens Wednesday, the 51-year-old actor wanted Thompson on board. An adaptation of a play based on an idea of Rickman's, The Winter Guest premiered onstage in 1995 at London's Almeida Theater, in a production directed by Rickman and starring Phyllida Law--a veteran stage actress who happens to be Thompson's mother. And, as the central relationship in The Winter Guest is between a mother and daughter, and Thompson and Law were both available, the casting of the film seemed obvious to Rickman. Shot last year at the East Neuk of Fife, a string of fishing villages on Scotland's northern shore, The Winter Guest came together so smoothly that it left Thompson and Rickman eager to work together again. And so we find them, at a grand old home in Pasadena that's doubling for New Orleans, which is the setting for Judas Kiss. A thriller written and directed by Sebastian Guiterrez, the film stars Thompson as a hard-boiled FBI agent and Rickman as an elegant detective. "It's been sort of accidental, but I think we're a good team," says Rickman during a break in filming. "We play a kind of tatty Bogart and Bacall in this film--only Emma's Bogart and I'm Bacall." "Our sensibilities are similar," adds the 38-year-old actress. "As I was writing Sense and Sensibility, I knew Alan was the perfect person to play Colonel Brandon--it was tough persuading others of that though, because at that point Alan was typecast in dark roles. So, it was gratifying to read the reviews that said, 'There is another side to Mr. Rickman--and here it is!' " The dark roles Thompson refers to include Rickman's comically diabolical turn as the Sheriff of Nottingham in the 1991 Kevin Costner vehicle Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves and his performance as a German terrorist in the 1988 blockbuster Die Hard, which marked his film debut. "Die Hard was a classic of its kind," Rickman dryly points out, "and I'm happy to have been in it, because I probably wouldn't be sitting here talking to you without it." Which isn't to suggest this is where Rickman wants to be late in the afternoon of a chilly fall day. An old knee injury has flared up, leaving him in considerable pain, and when he finishes for the day he's going straight to the doctor's. Thompson senses it's up to her to supply the high spirits for the interview and rises to the occasion admirably. Rickman came to Pasadena from Maine, where he'd been shooting Dark Harbor, an independent film he describes as "a strange love story in the vein of The Crying Game--I play a lawyer and husband. "I spent most of this year in London doing post-production on The Winter Guest, which wrapped last December, and I'm now in the midst of doing three movies back to back," continues Rickman, who heads to Memphis in February to shoot Kevin Smith's Dogma, which also stars Linda Fiorentino and Ben Affleck. Thompson came to Judas Kiss from the set of Primary Colors, Mike Nichols' adaptation of the best-selling novel, which wrapped in L.A. in August. "I adore Elaine May, who wrote the script, and it was a real treat working with those two," Thompson says. "Most of the 14 films I've done, however, have been independents shot in Europe and Great Britain. I've been offered many American films which I've declined, and it's always for the same reason; the script's no good. I'd rather earn my living screenwriting or doing a bit of journalism than act in a film I didn't believe in." As to what drew her to Judas Kiss, Thompson says "the script was strong, Alan and I have Southern accents, and I get to have a gun--I've never played a gun-slinging woman before!" New Orleans is a long way in every regard from the Scottish fishing village where The Winter Guest takes place. Set in real time on a day so cold that the sea has frozen solid, the film examines the dramas propelling a handful of lives. We observe a middle-aged woman whose husband has recently died, and the son she ignored while nursing his father. We meet this woman's mother, an elderly lady whose rapidly failing health may soon make her dependent on her daughter. We see two young teenagers as they have their first sexual experience, a pair of young boys who pass the afternoon gazing out to sea while discussing the mysteries of the universe, and a pair of spinsters whose friends have all died. "There are five sets of couples who have relationships they must negotiate their way around, and my hope is that people will find points of contact in all of them," Rickman says. "Every character has a starting point, something to work through, and some kind of moment of resolution. The film offers no easy answers to the things these people are struggling with; rather, it simply looks at a moment in time when the tide has been temporarily stilled, thus creating a moment of reflection." Of his first foray into directing, Rickman says, "I expected to be terrified but I wasn't, because I'd surrounded myself with all these experts. One of the pleasures of filmmaking is the cushion of support that inflates around you, and you really feel it as the weeks go on." Among the experts he recruited was Phyllida Law, who describes Rickman as "a very fastidious director. Alan has a piercing intelligence and he's merciless in his allegiance to the script--he knows every word, and if we inserted so much as a sigh, we heard from him. "I play a woman close to death, who fears the departure of her daughter will leave her desperately lonely--I'm clutching at her, and she can feel that trap," Law continues. "Emma and I aren't at all ratty with each other, and Alan was concerned we might get on too well, but I don't think our own relationship bled into our performances. I think we're able to work well together, probably because we've had similar problems in life. "My two daughters aren't virgins about death and have dealt with lots of it within the family. Families can be smug and comfy, but ours hit the bad bits and came through it, and I admire Emma greatly. She's a woman of tremendous courage, which I take no credit for." Says Thompson: "My mother was widowed at 48 and that had a powerful effect on our family. We have a friendship, really, and we live in adjacent houses and can see into each others' kitchens. My character in the film is at the peak of her resistance to the attentions of her mother, however. She wants to get away from the house where she nursed her dead husband, so when she sees her mother's hand shake she snaps, 'Don't do that!' What she's really saying, of course, is 'Don't be ill and make me stay and look after you.' " Rickman interjects, "It's a moment that comes to many of us, that point when the roles switch and the child must become the parent. "You either accept the responsibility and look after your parents, or you don't, " adds the actor, whose own mother died during the editing of the film. "Like Emma's mother, my mother was widowed young--I was the second of four children and she raised us on her own." All the women in The Winter Guest are without romantic partners, so in that sense they too are on their own. Thompson is quick to point out, however, that their lives are far from empty. "We've been socialized to feel that anything other than a romantic love relationship is second best," she says with exasperation. "Romantic love has taken precedence over all other relationships, probably because it offers an escape from reality. It's a complete con, of course, because it doesn't last, and anyone who says it does is lying. "We continue to look for it though because we're like rats in a tunnel looking for cheese where there simply isn't any," she says with a laugh. "The difference between a rat and a human being is that rats finally get the point; human beings, on the other hand, will continue to scurry down the cheeseless tunnel forever, thinking, 'It's gonna happen one day, I just know it.' " "That would be a great title for a film: The Cheeseless Tunnel," Rickman says with a laugh. "I'd go see that." The Winter Guest is a small, thoughtful mood piece, and is the furthest thing imaginable from a special-effects film. So it's surprising to hear Rickman say that "technically it couldn't have been made before now. It would be impossible to shoot at a location cold enough for the sea to freeze, so our frozen sea was created in the computer." Adds Thompson: "The ice is a powerful analogy for our condition. We, too, become static when we're unable to face change, and we're observing these people as something in them is cracking. Some kind of tectonic plate in their psyche is shifting ever so slightly, and it frees them to step out of that frozen moment and move into the next chapter of their lives." The Winter Guest suggests that one thing these characters are sure to find in the next chapter of their lives is moments of loneliness; in the end, the film is a meditation on loneliness and the things people do--both appropriate and inappropriate--to assuage it. "The film says that loneliness is there and must be dealt with," Thompson says. "People resist it ferociously, of course, but loneliness is something one does come out of and it can teach you things. One of the nice things about The Winter Guest is that it suggests that whatever human condition you find yourself in, you shouldn't regard it as some sort of sickness. Most American films imply that any form of unhappiness is simply not to be borne and that a happy ending is essential, but I don't accept that. "I'm fed up with movies targeted at teenagers," she says. "It's not that I don't want them to make Raiders of the Lost Ark because that's one of my favorite films, but I'm sick of being infantilized by pop culture. Artists are responsible for expressing everyone's views, not just people in the throes of the most romantic, fantasy-driven part of their lives. And that's one of the things I love about The Winter Guest; it says, 'Look, even at 12, you can experience existential despair, so let's grow up!' " |
Alan Rickman has built his career playing sexy, sardonic villains, yet in real life he seems a paragon of loyalty, stability and monogamy. So what does a self-confessed control freak do with his emotional mayhem? He puts it all in his directorial film debut
| I was present at the exact moment that Alan Rickman became a star - though no one saw it coming, not even the man himself. It was the evening of Thursday September 26, 1985, the venue was the Other Place, the RSC studio in Stratford-on-Avon, and the occasion was the first night of Les Liaisons Dangereuses. Of course, it is easy now to see that the play was destined to be a hit. But back then, adaptations of novels were not the vogue; Christopher Hampton was something of a maverick writer; Howard Davies, the director, was on his way out of the RSC and the whole enterprise - an 18th-century French period piece featuring the sexual romps of a bunch of pampered, aristocratic perverts - had the fin-de-siecle feel of a final festive fling. And, indeed, Les Liaisons was the closing production of a lacklustre season - there had been a self-conscious designer feel about the productions, as if infected by the spirit of the times.
That night, the elements conspired to assist Rickman. It was cold, it was dark, and it was raining, making even the tinpot Other Place appear cosy, a safe haven. Inside, there was the aura of expectation that you get with an audience comprised mainly of other actors. What Hampton had written was a state-of-the-nation play. Laclos, writing seven years before the French Revolution, had borne witness to a society, driven by appetite, eating itself alive. Like Freud after him, Laclos took sexuality as the substructure of human activity, and through the sexual shenanigans of his Vicomte de Valmont and Marquise de Meurteuil could be inferred the corruption of the superstructure - society. It was a political play, but one dressed with consummate elegance - the iron hand in the velvet glove - something of the essence of Rickman himself. What I remember of Rickman's performance as Valmont is that his body seemed to be hinged in all sorts of unexpected places, enabling him to fold and unfold it at will. That voice - poised, cadenced, raw and yet musical - came out of a mouth like a cave, creating these tilts of sound and body. He was frightening. Frightening, not because he was immoral, but because he made you want him. Within the moral vacuum that surrounded him - and that nothing could penetrate - he was irresistible. That first night, as Lindsay Duncan, who played the Marquise, Valmont's partner in crime, has famously said: "A lot of people left the theatre wanting to have sex, and most of them wanted to have it with Alan Rickman." A lot of people must also have left the theatre wondering where the RSC had been hiding an actor of such calibre. In the 1985 season, his two Shakespearean roles were Jaques in As You Like It and Achilles in Troilus And Cressida. Even 12 years on, it still smarts to think of the roles he could have had - Hamlet (which he did at producer Thelma Holt's invitation in 1992), Prospero, Macbeth. And why hadn't the National picked him up - offered him a Chekhov. Or Ibsen. He would make a terrifying Judge Brack. It wasn't a good time in the big subsidised theatres. There was a machismo among directors, particularly at the RSC, that actors rightly resented. Actresses on the whole fared better, especially if they chose to exploit the traditional male/female power structure. A number of wonderful actors were lost. Some, Jonathan Pryce, for example, simply left classical theatre - never to return. Kenneth Branagh, at the Riverside, and Ian McDiarmid, at the Almeida, established their own actor/manager companies. Rickman almost slipped through the net. As he says, "Perhaps the powers that be should look back at that time and ask if really the best was made of it. It was an amazing bunch of actors." And perhaps it is worth reflecting that Trevor Nunn, the man who ran the RSC then, is the man who runs the Royal National Theatre today. There is an ancient Chinese proverb. If you sit long enough by the river bank, the body of your enemy may float by. Rickman waited almost 20 years for his first taste of triumph - he was 42 in 1985 when success came. Even then, it must have seemed to him that all too suddenly it was snatched out of his grasp. The part of Valmont in Stephen Frears' film Dangerous Liaisons went to John Malkovich - as Rickman says, "hot at the time". Now he can be philosophical about it. "You have to live in the real world. My getting that part was never on the cards, I know that." Then he was hurt. He never went to see the film: "Why would I?" And, as he points out, it was Les Liaisons that changed the course of his career. When the play transferred to Broadway for its brief, packed-out, American Equity-endorsed, 20-week run, it was seen by film producer Joel Silver, who was looking for a charismatic, serio-comic, sardonic villain to cast opposite his Die Hard star Bruce Willis. Someone has said that not getting Dangerous Liaisons saved Rickman, because it saved his sense of humour. Die Hard gave him it back. Watching Rickman in that brilliant cartoon of a film, he is irresistibly funny. And you see he can gauge the exact temperature at which the camera reacts. He doesn't shout at it - like Branagh - and for all his flamboyance, there is not a lot of fuss. The movements are nuanced, and something he does with the corner of his eye is reminiscent of the great Robert Mitchum. There is a tradition in British theatre for missing native talent, as if we can't tell how good it is until it has crossed the Atlantic. The Americans don't make that mistake. Rickman's next Hollywood film was Robin Hood: Prince Of Thieves, with Kevin Costner. These days, everyone is after Rickman. Theatre offers pour in from the RSC and the National, but so far Rickman has taken none. He can now divide his time between film and theatre at will. He has just returned from Los Angeles, where he was making the film Judas Kiss with his friend Emma Thompson, "A thriller in which she plays an FBI agent and I play a detective, and we're both from New Orleans." He will remain in London for the opening of his directorial film debut of Sharman Macdonald's The Winter Guest, a script he co-wrote with Macdonald, the writer whose first play he promoted when he was a reader all those years before at the Bush Theatre. The film features, among others, Emma Thompson. He plans a film of Maugham's The Moon And Sixpence, adapted by Christopher Hampton ... and so on. Ergo the cast list in his life is pretty constant, he is loyal. "I have loyal friends," he says. He has been in a relationship with the same woman, Rima Horton, for almost 30 years. People sometimes describe Rickman as aloof, haughty, a 'guru', but instead of some bleak, intimidating oracle, I meet a warm, intelligent man who giggles a lot. He is not easy, he admits it himself ("Good luck with this one ..."). And his first words - following my standard "Pleased to meet you" - are an Eeyorish, "Whoever I may be". But he is candid. He will try to be honest, he says. He can't help it if there's a voice in the back of his head checking everything he says. To list some of his hates: Talking about himself. "What is it about actors? God knows I get bored with actors talking about themselves." Being asked questions about himself. "I don't think it's right that everybody knows everything about me." From this you could assume that his primary purpose is to hold himself at bay - but the theme that recurs most frequently in his conversation is a horror of isolation. He hates theatres that aren't in cities, "because when you come off the stage, you want to walk out into life". He hates the limos he is routinely accorded in New York and Hollywood because the first time he got in one, "the black windows went up and I knew in a flash what it was all about: to keep me as far away from the next human being as possible - and what a terrible concept that is". The problem, he says, is that success is too often measured in terms of isolation. "In LA it is measured by the height of the walls around your home and by the size of the home inside its high walls. That's a kind of living death to me." The more success you have, the greater the pressure to remove yourself from the real world. The desire for privacy is an entirely different instinct. Most people are private, he says, "if by private is meant wanting control over the way you are seen". But for an actor, privacy is essential. "Acting is about giving something away, handing yourself over to whatever role you are asked to play. I'm not hiding or escaping or seeking anonymity. I reserve the right not to have a rubber stamp on my forehead saying this is who I am. Because who I am gets in the way of people looking innocently at the parts I play." And he is probably right: it is possible to have too much information. I remember once hearing a live recording of Elgar conducting Pomp And Circumstance Number Three. "I want you to play this," the old man chuckled, his voice rising to keep pace with that all-too familiar crescendo, "as if you had never heard it before." It was a joke, but it was also a stab at truth. How do you come to something fresh - or, to use Rickman's word, "innocently"? When he is acting Hamlet, he says, and he sees a young woman in the audience wearing a Truly, Madly, Deeply T-shirt, and also present is Juliet Stevenson, there is a clash of realities. It is all about fantasies, he says, the myths that follow actors around. "I cannot take responsibility for people's fantasy. I can't think about it, I can't live with it and I won't dwell on it." So what do you want, I ask him. "I want to be part of the storytelling chain," he says. He knows that there are no new stories, nothing new under the sun; only new ways of telling them, playing them, painting them, acting them. Listening to him talk about his childhood, I am struck first by its familiarity - love, loss - then by its uniqueness. I say that I didn't think he'd enjoy being a director because he wants to be loved too much. "Loved," he says, as startled as if I'd just invented the word. "No, it has nothing to do with love." Because, I realise later, love occupies a particular space in his mind. He uses the word only twice. Of his companion, Rima. And of his mother. It is by contrasts that we remember things. A happy time is happy only as distinct from darker times. His early years, he says, were good years - though the family was poor and the house in Acton small and cramped with what became a family of six - his parents were happy. There was something of a clash of cultures - his mum a Methodist and Welsh, his dad an Irish Catholic - and a certain amount of banging and weeping behind doors. But he never doubted, as a child, that they were loved. He is clear about this. "We were not excluded, not at all." Listening to people, it is hard sometimes not to pre-empt what they are going to say. I thought he said, "We are each the sum of the luck we have." But something about the tone of this phrase struck me as wrong, and when I asked him to repeat it, I heard that he had said "lack": "We are who we are. The sum of the lack we have." His lack - and not just his, but the lack of his two brothers, one sister, and, of course, his adored mum - is the death of his father from lung cancer when Rickman was eight years old, and his siblings nine, seven and five. With his father's death everything changed. "What do you want me to say? Yes, I remember certain things about him, but the memories I have of my father are those you have as an eight-year-old. Yes, his death was a huge thing to happen to four kids under ten." I asked him if he felt his father as an absence in his life. "No," he said, making it more a question than an answer, "you can't feel that." You can't feel it, he explains, because you have to be present in your own life. You don't will yourself out of your own life. There are times, he says, when the past appears to him as a snapshot, a frozen moment in time: A small boy in a classroom. The headmaster walking across the front of the class, speaking quietly to the teacher as both turn to look at the boy. "And I know what they are going to say. They are going to tell me to go home, where I will be told that my father is dead." Or the moment after the funeral, which the children didn't go to, when he saw his mother for the first time since the death. "Some friends drove us to meet her. They said 'Look, there's your mother' and we all said 'Where?' Because we didn't recognise this woman dressed head to foot in black." He describes a scene from Gorky's My Childhood in which a boy opens a door and looks into a long room. At the end of the room sits a woman naked to the waist and wearing a red skirt. In her arms, she is cradling the body of a man who has pennies over his eyes. Her husband, Gorky's father. "Maybe," Rickman says, "my story is not as dramatic as that. But you see. I was always used to seeing my mother in the brightest of colours. For me, that was the biggest shock." Probably none of us ever recovers from shock. Shock is like a crater in the mind, and you spend the rest of your life trying not to slip over the edge. His mother never got over it. She married again, briefly, for three years. "All that can be said about that is that it didn't work out. There was one love in her life." His mother became fiercely protective of her children, "like a tigress". She treated them equally, he says; there were no favourites. And then, this happens. He gets a scholarship to a direct-grant school, Latymer Upper in Hammersmith. "A different world, with different rules from the ones I grew up with." He does well, is made a prefect. He discovers that the cool detachment, what he calls "the airiness of the truly English" suits his temperament better than Celtic emotional mayhem. "Latymer was like a cold gust of wind to the brain." And suddenly he finds himself being drawn away from his background. "You want to run away, you know you've got to come to terms with it. You find yourself becoming middle class, and you have to deal with that. You feel guilty and you have to come out the other side of that. And then some success starts to attend ..." In fact, he didn't choose theatre first. From school he went to art college. He wanted to be a designer, and, with a group of friends, he set up a studio in Soho. "We had a great time, even though we didn't make a lot of money." Then, at 24, he looked around him, thought, "Is this it for the rest of my life?" and promptly chucked it in and won a scholarship to RADA. Looking back, he says, the theatre, acting, was always going to be his world. It wasn't even a conscious desire. "For me, it was simply finding the place where I functioned on all cylinders." It was about discovering himself. "Maybe that's why it took me some time to decide to do it." And though he doesn't say so, acting must have provided him with a way back to his roots. People describe how, in his early years, he was wooden, uncomfortable, diffident on stage. If stage acting is the art of unfurling yourself in public, for Rickman, a self-confessed control freak - "Just ask Juliet Stevenson" - the theatre was the one place where he could be out of control without the emotional chaos spinning him over the edge. There has never been any jealousy or competitiveness, he says, from anyone in his family. "On the contrary. All I get from them is the fiercest pride. And I for them." They supported him, particularly his mum. "She was incredibly talented herself. She would have had a career as a singer herself - in another world, and given a different mother." The point he is making is that talent is not enough. What is also needed, apart from dedication, are the conditions in which talent can flourish. His mother gave him something extraordinary from a parent to child - generosity. Talented herself, even if thwarted in her talent, she didn't begrudge him his. As a present for her 80th birthday, he arranged for her to go and see Phantom Of The Opera - it's what she wanted, a musical. Afterwards, there was a huge party that she entered "like the star she was. I've never seen anyone enter a room like that." She died, he tells me, last year. In the middle of the editing of his film The Winter Guest. His work is his autobiography he says. "If people want to know who I am, it is all in the work." There was a time when he was overtly political, a staunch Labour Party supporter, and prepared to speak out. Less so now. "I find myself becoming less and less enamoured of public statement - I'd rather see it in action." So if The Winter Guest is autobiographical, in the sense that he means above - not literally - what does it say about Rickman? It is Sharman Macdonald's play adapted for screen, he points out. It is her vision, her words. But clearly, something must have drawn him back to it after directing the play. He is not a man who easily repeats himself. There must have been something new, or something he missed, that he felt he could bring to it the second time around. The story is a curious, multi-layered, poetic meditation on life and death, a kind of seven ages of man, viewed through the relationships of four couples: mother/daughter; boy/girl; two young schoolboys; two old ladies. There is no father figure - the father has just died - but more interesting than this, there is no mature male character. I ask Rickman what drew him to this material specifically. He is hesitant at first. Being a director, he says, is a job in which you harness other people's talents. It was a surprising coalition of many different elements in his life, 'a chain'. The idea for the play arose from a story told to him by his friend Lindsay Duncan, whose mother was sick with Alzheimer's disease. "She found her one day in the garden, pruning roses in wellington boots and her wedding hat." Rickman put Duncan in touch with writer Sharman Macdonald. "Years passed, I was filming in America and the Almeida theatre asked if I would like to direct a play. Sharman had completed The Winter Guest and was waiting for an opportunity for me to direct it." In the role of the dying mother, Rickman cast Phyllida Law, Emma Thompson's mother. "What was extraordinary was that it was the first time for five years that Phyllida had been free. She had been nursing her own mother, who was dying." In a way, and if you believe in these things, he says, it was as if the play was waiting for her. And maybe, he adds, it is to do with becoming successful. "In this world, in which people pass each other without contact, I like the idea of focusing on eight voices, isolated in a small town in a bitter winter. Maybe, as I move increasingly in a world of publicity launches and films and plane travel, I just find it reassuring." There is a point in the film for each couple where one holds out a hand to the other and is rejected. Then comes the moment where the hand is grasped. "And, yes, I like that," he says. "It seems to make some sense of why we are here." I tell him that I find the end of the film, where the little boys walk out over the ice sheet, terribly depressing. I don't want them to die. "Then they don't die," he says. What is interesting about this is that in the original play it is unequivocal - the two boys walk off into the mist and they die. The film ending is much more ambiguous. It was he, Rickman says, who took that decision. "The play was too explicit, too melodramatic. I wanted the ending of the film to be optimistic. Even joyful." "Of course," he says, resigned, "I identify with the boy in the film whose father has died." For that boy, what is happening is a sexual awakening - a whole realm of possibility, the rest of his life, is opening up to him. There is a wonderful moment when the young girl comes to his house to make love to him while his mother is out, and she deliberately turns around all the photos, the shrine to his father, as if to absolve the boy from any further guilt or grief. As Rickman says, this is a film about human possibility, one that acknowledges that we can't achieve the impossible - alter the past. "As we get older," he says, "we are all waiting on the shore. It's the young who walk out into the world we have made for them. That's what I think the film is about. Its last line is 'Wait for me'." This makes me wonder why he had never had children. It was not a choice, he says. "You should remember I am not the only one involved. There is another person here." He says he would have loved a family. "Sometimes I think that in an ideal world, three children, aged 12, ten and eight, would be dropped on us and we would be great parents for that family." But when I say that he could leave for a 20-year-old starlet, start a family ... "Er, no," he says. Never been tempted? "No." I am just thinking what an incredibly sensible, level-headed man he is, when he suddenly veers off course. Recently, he tells me, "someone who knows about these things" informed him that all the problems and indecisions in his life stem from the fact that he is a Piscean. "I want to swim in both directions at once. Desire success, court failure." But even worse, he says, is the fact that he has no earth in his sign. "It's all air and water. Nothing to hold me down." I am still trying to work out if he is taking the piss when he says, "Luckily, there is some fire there. That must be from my mum - she was a Sagittarian." So he has a daft side, too. It seems to him now, he says, that for the first time in his life, all his energies have come together, cohered, "so that whatever this career is that I have, it appears to be acquiring some shape." He is still chaotic, he says. "In the sense that I don't know what I'm going to be doing in the next half hour." But he is enjoying him, the filming, travelling. If success gives you anything, he says, it is the chance to do what you want. What he wants is to live till he is old. "And still be out there as an actor doing something somewhere at 70." But he has no ambitions to move to Hollywood. The things that he likes best are simple things: "Good friends, good food, good wine." There are those who don't know Rickman and don't like him. And those who know him and adore him. This, a friend of his informs me, is because he is gracious, a real gentleman. "He will hate me for saying this, but he embodies all those old-fashioned Christian virtues." He is also immensely teasable. In the 12 years since Liaisons, he has gained a reputation for playing the sardonic, sexy villain - almost creating his own sub-genre in this role. But mention the word sex to him, and he looks instantly trapped. No, he says, he has never been remotely sexually voracious, whatever that is ... Then, lightening up, "but maybe I'll be sexually voracious next week." His next role, he tells me, is in a movie scripted by Kevin Smith, who wrote and directed Clerks and Chasing Amy. He plays an angel. "Do you know," he says, "angels have no genitals." For some reason, he finds this uproariously funny. The Winter Guest opens January 9. |
America's favourite Euro-villain has turned director with an uncompromising film whose initial idea was born in the 1980s, grew into a stage play, and which he has nurtured to the screen. Alan Rickman, 'not your usual kind of actor', talks to Penelope Dening.
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Alan Rickman stalks into the room, a study in dishevelled hauteur, emphasised by the hooded eyes, Roman nose and curling upper lip that has made him America's favourite Euro-villain - particularly with the ladies. He doesn't like giving interviews, though what I take initially for disdain strikes me later as more a manifestation of chronic shyness rather than charming obfuscation. In short, Alan Rickman is not your usual kind of actor. He talks quietly, precisely. Fine hands, at odds with the craggy face topped by trademark widow's peak, pivot at the wrist as delicately as a temple dancer's as he speaks. It comes as no surprise to learn that he started life as an artist, a graphic designer, first at Chelsea School of Art, then the Royal College - though he left only a year into his MA - followed by several years on the job before winning a scholarship to RADA. But we are not here to discuss his enviable career as an actor, but his first crack at directing. Although The Winter Guest has already achieved critical success, first at the Venice Film Festival, then at the Chicago International Film Festival where it took top prize, Rickman is wary, giving me a wan smile and over-measured "thank you" when I tell him how much it moved me. His defensiveness is perhaps not surprising. For once the above-the-title legend "Alan Rickman's The Winter Guest" is no Hollywood hype. The film is 51-year-old Rickman's baby, a baby he both fathered and delivered, and that has been years in gestation. It all goes back to the 1985/86 season with the Royal Shakespeare Company when Alan Rickman eased himself into the front line of English theatre actors as the manipulating womaniser Valmont in the hugely successful Les Liaisons Dangereuses, which eventually transferred to Broadway. His costar was Lindsay Duncan and it was stories she told him of her relationship with her seriously ill mother that prompted Rickman to commission a play from Sharman Macdonald, who he had championed since reading her first play When I Was A Girl I Used To Scream And Shout, and which he was instrumental in getting staged. The Winter Guest duly opened in Leeds in 1995 before transferring to the Almeida in London. Centred around a dying mother and grieving daughter and set in a remote Scottish seaside town when the sea has frozen over, its staging presented huge problems for the designer. Right from the outset, says Rickman, "the piece itself was hungry to expand into the other medium". Actors-turned-director regularly elicit fine performances from their cast but Rickman has not allowed himself to be trapped in those performances. It is a very visual film. How much was his approach informed by his earlier career? "I think it has guided my choices as an actor. I don't mean parts, but just if you have your eye trained it affects what you do in a rehearsal room or on stage in terms of its space and a sense of texture and colour. And things like that can be translated into your work. Sculpture even. I think that Sharman's work is very sculptural and so I'm aware of lots of cross currents rather than separating things out. As far as I'm concerned each discipline informs another. "I don't really separate them. But clearly the work that I did as a graphic designer was of crucial importance to the conversations between me and Seamus McGarvey and the production designers and the art directors. The framing of the shots, the colours, the textures of the landscape - everything." The Winter Guest is an extraordinarily confident and uncompromising work from a début director. Rickman was determined not to be side-stepped by film professionals who thought they knew best. "I very specifically didn't choose people who talked in those terms. The choice of Seamus was very much guided by meeting this incredibly open, wide-eyed joyous spirit who I knew would go hand-in-hand with me and not make me forelock tug." Seamus McGarvey, the up-and-coming cinematographer from Armagh, was just a name on a list of available directors of photography. "I saw he had done this film called Butterfly Kiss that I really liked. Then I went to meet him in Glasgow where he was shooting John Byrne's film of Slab Boys. And that was it was far as I was concerned. Some instinct in me said I would rather go with a young spirit. We could make our messes together. But he is so technically equipped anyway, and so passionate. He's terrific, but he's also the person I needed on the set every day. I didn't need people who were going to say `Oh, we know how to do this'." Evem with Rickman's name on the screenplay and the director's chair, he acknowledges The Winter Guest would never have happened without Emma Thompson on board. Thompson's mother Phillida Law was in the original production, where her daughter was played by Sian Thomas. Four members of the original cast of eight remain and Rickman's face furrows as he talks of the painful decision to sacrifice Thomas's "brilliant" stage performance to the great god Hollywood. "But also, there was a rightness about it for the film which even Sian acknowledged. Of course it was tough for her and me and it was a difficult thing to cope with in one's head and it will continue to be difficult for her. She knows how brilliant she was. And she also knows that we'll do something else down the line and I just hope that somehow makes up for it." To have mother and daughter playing mother and daughter, particularly when the daughter is Emma Thompson was clearly dream casting, though during the shooting Rickman says he would "forget about them being mother and daughter". "When I say forget about it, you don't take it for granted. You can't when you look at it in rushes and you see these two profiles and you see the ease that they move around each other. But you forget about it on the level that you're talking to them as individuals, not as a collective." Alan Rickman does not believe his inexperience behind the camera was a disadvantage. "Every project has its own rules. But you don't know what they are until you start but you have to try to make sure that the circumstances exist on a practical level that give you time to discover what its own rules are and how you deal with it on a day to day level." Rickman's problems on The Winter Guest included two 12-year-old boys who had never acted on film before. The first "boring" thing was to make sure they knew the text backwards, which involved two weeks of rehearsal. "By the time we started shooting I had schooled them into some awareness of stillness so that they weren't fidgeting as well as speaking. So that there was a sense of `when we're in front of the cameras we're going to be quite still, or if we move we're going to chose how to move'. "And then on a personal level they were never for a second patronised by any member of the cast or the crew as the kids on the film. They were absolutely treated as equals, as adults, included in every outing, every late night beanfeast that was going and their chaperone would let them stay up for. It was much more important to me that they were having a good time with Emma Thompson, their mate rather than this movie star." The performances Rickman gets from these boys are quite simply staggering. They have bunked off from school; the frozen sea is a magnet they just cannot resist. In the original stage play - and indeed screenplay - the lure of the ice ends in tragedy. Now the ending is ambivalent. "It may be a happy ending. I cut a lot of stuff that would have made it much more obvious that they had died. Because in the end it is too important to me that the film is a celebration. And if you like, without bashing the metaphor, it's about saying they're walking off into the future that any 12-yearold wants to walk off into, the world that we as socalled adults build for the youngest to walk out into. "What is it? They can't see it through the mist and it's cracking under their feet." Although theatre remains Rickman's first love, he has no wish to impose theatrical givens on film performances, his own or other actors'. "Peter Barnes, the writer, says that to him the theatre is like working in oils and film is like working in water colour. They are different disciplines. In one of them you need to be able to use yourself in a different way, much more speedily and take advantage of the moment. To come to film too prepared could be a problem as well. Too unwilling to throw it away and do something else." The Winter Guest opens in the Screen at D'Olier Street, Dublin, on January 9th. |
Getting a new role down cold, Alan Rickman makes his debut as a director
| You'd know the languid, chiseled, resonant drawl with your eyes closed. It belongs to Alan Rickman, who has managed the difficult feat of remaining a respected British stage presence while launching a Hollywood career based on playing indolently sexy villains who seem amused by evil-doing. Perhaps because he holds strong socialist convictions, and to this day feels a conflict between Hollywood's high-priced glitz and his egalitarian principles, he has not exactly been extroversion incarnate when talking about himself.
Maybe the reason Rickman is relaxed on a recent cold afternoon is that there is no audience except for a lone journalist in the tiny office borrowed from a theater manager. Certainly it helps that he isn't going to have to talk about why women find him sexy or what his next big career move will be. He's playing what for him is a new role: film director. Rickman's debut film, The Winter Guest, about a mother who trudges through the frozen streets of a Scottish fishing village to thaw her recently widowed daughter out of her grief, opens Friday. He's quite happy to remain behind the camera, deferring to his stars, Emma Thompson and her real-life mother, Phyllida Law, who play daughter and mother in the film. ''We only had to film five lines a day,'' Rickman says, purring. ''I was like a kid in a toy shop. Strangely enough, Phyllida, who actually grew up in Glasgow, could not have done this until we asked her two years ago. She had spent the last five years looking after her own aging parents. She and her husband had summered in Scotland with their daughters, Emma and Sophie. Emma and her sister preferred to think of themselves as Scots who just happened to go to school in England. Emma and Phyllida had appeared together in Much Ado and Peter's Friends and were looking for another film they could do together. I suggested to Phyllida, who was in the play the film comes from, that the natural rhythms of mother and daughter might suit them, Phyllida said, `Ask her. She's a sensible girl.' ''When our production designer, who grew up there, showed us the village of Pittenweem, it sort of answered what our problems were. It looked very uninhabited due to the demise of the fishing there. It just felt right. For the frozen sea, we were able to use an airfield 3 miles away, covered with brilliant white foam. We had to relocate a few boats. There were sea gulls. It felt right. Sort of like a Bruegel painting. Emma, who plays a photographer, felt the town was helping you, wanting to be photographed.'' Although he commissioned and directed the original play, by Sharman Macdonald, Rickman says, ''I couldn't imagine anyone was going to throw it at me to direct. ''I found the actual work of directing had very little to do with going up to actors and saying things. My friend Bob Hoskins says filmmaking is like being pecked to death by pigeons. I would use a more violent bird. We could spend hours setting up the beach. Luckily, I was surrounded by experts. You're too busy sensing other people's fear rather than your own. Of course, in the film you have close-ups. That meant I could include a lot of stillness. Having the realistic images made quite a difference. Onstage, we had a steeply raked, stylized surface, quite different. People said of the stage production, `Oh, it's so filmic.' I'm not sure it was much of a compliment. It's not that one medium is more collaborative than the other. One makes suggestions as an actor, although friends in the theater have said that when it's not your name on the program, it's called interfering.'' He'd do it again, Rickman says of directing, if the right project came along. ''But acting is not something I'll stop doing. I can't see how. You're always reacting as well as performing.'' If Rickman's grasp of the respective visual worlds of stage and film is secure, it's because he began as an art student. His focus on acting bespeaks the fact that he's a late bloomer. Rickman, a young-looking 50, glumly saw himself going nowhere at the age of 38. Then along came his breakthrough role as the cruel, silken Vicomte de Valmont in Les Liaisons Dangereuses. It made him a star in London and on Broadway. In 1988, he made his film debut in Die Hard, stealing the film from Bruce Willis as a German terrorist, Hans Gruber, putting steely, rakish spin on cliche after cliche. He did the same thing three years later as the outrageously entertaining Sheriff of Nottingham in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. He could have gone on in that vein. Ceertainly he was glad to bid goodbye to the malignant Valmont after playing the role for two years. ''It was time to stop,'' he says. ''You cannot go on playing a self-destructive character night after night without destroying something in yourself.'' Intentionally, he chose a small English film, Anthony Minghella's Truly, Madly, Deeply, disarmingly playing the ghost of Juliet Stevenson's dead lover, then joined Thompson and director Ang Lee in Sense and Sensibility before playing a cold, repressed Eamon De Valera to Liam Neeson's title character in Michael Collins. If the Hannibal Lecter role in The Silence of the Lambs hadn't gone to Anthony Hopkins, Rickman would have been cast. Soon, he'll be seen in another modestly scaled film, Kevin Smith's Dogma, with Linda Fiorentino and the Good Will Hunting team of Ben Afleck and Matt Damon. ''It's a sort of moral debate about Catholicism mixed up with special effects. I play an angel preventing them from getting back into heaven, the issue being that if they get back in, there's no such thing as divine retribution. It's a deeply funny film,'' says Rickman, who more than once has had the bad luck to be described as too intelligent to be an actor. Rickman says he hasn't decided what he'll do after that - ''I've never had a strategy'' - but says he'd like to film a remake of The Moon and Sixpence, W. Somerset Maugham's novel based on the life of Gauguin. He feels a certain kinship with mavericks. He's proud that Thomas Paine completed The Rights of Man while lodging with one of his radical ancestors. Partly, impeccable working-class credentials and Labor Party loyalties keep him at a certain distance from the glitz factor, although, he says, he's not one of those tiresome types who humorlessly fulminate about Hollywood. ''I like David Hare's phrase: `Show business thins the mind,''' Rickan says. ''But I enjoy being in LA. I drive a car there and don't at home. It's disgusting and wonderful, like going to Dunkin' Donuts every day.'' What Rickman doesn't like is being reduced to a few quick labels or sound bites. He lives alone in a London house three tube stops away from the council flat where he and his siblings grew up (his mother now owns it). But in a business of ephemeral ties, he and Rima Horton, a political activist and university lecturer, have been partnered for 31 years. Shaped by the '60s, he's free-form, a man of contradictions, idealistic, pessimistic, sensitive, durable. The egalitarian in him likes the fact that his longtime friend playwright Peter Barnes has switched from writing at the British Museum to writing in the McDonald's in Leicester Square. Rickman never wants to feel he's out of touch with the world he comes from. ''I've always existed on fairly thin ice,'' he says. ''One gets used to living by the seat of one's pants. What I've got to do now is create space. In my head and in my living room. The kitchen and dining room are now my office. I have this feeling that if I could sort out what's on my dining room table, everything would fall into place." |
| It was in the setting of the 25th Brussels International Film Festival [1998], more precisely in one of the boxes at the Theatre de la Toison d'Or, that we had the infinite pleasure of meeting Alan Rickman. "A theatre is always a magical place," he greeted us as he came in, with a smile that held its secrets.
After having been a frightfully wicked Sheriff of Nottingham, a determined Irish leader, a ghostly and exceptionally likable husband, and even a Rasputin, Alan Rickman has come to the Festival to present a new facet of his talent, his first full-length film as a director, The Winter Guest: an interesting film of frozen landscapes, beautiful images, engaging characters and fine feelings, which has, moreover, carried off the "People's Choice" award at Brussels. ETM: More and more actors are wanting to get behind the camera. Now it's your turn. Could you describe your motivations? AR: There have always been actors who have become directors. You only have to think of Orson Welles, Robert Redford, Dennis Hopper....I think that we simply want to "write." Working as an actor in many films allows you to observe directors. It's like taking a film-school course. You might not learn everything about focal lengths, but you learn enormously about the manner of working on location, on a set. Moreover, an actor likes to be treated in a certain way, to work in a certain manner. [Because the actor has] to put everything into place, to observe, to grasp...this work in progress that's hiding from him. [And] this obviously depends on individual directors, their vision and their personality. ETM: You had already directed the theatrical version of The Winter Guest. Now you're directing the film. Mainly because of the subject? AR: It isn't really the subject. It's more the friendship between Lindsay Duncan (with whom he worked in Les Liaisons Dangereuses, for the Royal Shakespeare Company) and me, all the more so because the work is dedicated to her mother. I introduced her to Sharman MacDonald (author/screenwriter). I really didn't know what the work would be. I didn't even try to guide it, but I was involved from the start in insuring the direction it would take. I was present at its birth and I had a stake in seeing it succeed. As time went on I realised that it was a work which fascinated me more and more because...directing [it?] was something that I ought to do....But the subject was also important. The film doesn't just speak of a frozen seascape, but of all generations. It's a bit of the life of all the characters, maybe also a bit of ours. As we approach the year 2000, you don't always look ahead, but you turn equally to the past. I think of that more and more. ETM: Who is the real "winter guest?" Death, which is close to a number of the characters? The grief of the main character Frances (played by Emma Thompson)? Her solitude and that of her mother? The renewal of life? Or of love again? AR: For [Sharman] MacDonald, I know it's death. For me, it's rather Frances, who spends so much time at the beach looking for something, or someone, across the mist. Someone whom you imagine but can't really see. Certainly, in her case, there are the decisions not to go on grieving, to not go away, to accept her responsibilities there where she is, to take into consideration her relationship with her mother and accept it. For me, the winter guest is a moment, sometimes several, in the life of everyone, where you come face to face with a difficult choice, where you have to grow up quickly. ETM: But all the same, the theme of death is important... AR: It's one of the themes that is developed. I hope especially that the film is a hymn to life, and that it's positive and entertaining. |
Although he's known for his portrayal of villains, Alan Rickman believes actors should be careful to maintain their innocence
| "I don't read those things," Alan Rickman says dismissively when asked about the negative reviews for his new film, Blow Dry. It's not said in anger, but there is a touch of that languid exasperation which characterises so many of his roles.
He settles back in his chair and agrees that what attracted him initially to the film, a Strictly Ballroom-esque tale of hairdressing competitions set in the northern English town of Keighley, was the prospect of taking on a different, quieter role than those he usually plays. The other attraction was working with Irish director Paddy Breathnach. "Although I also responded to the script, I was incredibly interested in working with Paddy, because I'd seen I Went Down and loved it," he says. "Sometimes you see a film and make a mental note that you want to work with that particular director." Blow Dry received a pretty unanimous raspberry from the British media on its UK release a few weeks ago. Characterised as a shameless rip-off of other "grim oop north" comic melodramas such as The Full Monty and Brassed Off, the film was criticised for its lack of originality and sloppy script. Does he think the film suffered by comparison with others of its genre? "Well, genre is a dangerous word, isn't it?" he says carefully. "When I made An Awfully Big Adventure here in Dublin, it was coming hot on the heels of Four Weddings and a Funeral. Because Mike Newell directed it and Hugh Grant was in it, for some reason people thought - I can't think why - that they were going to see Four Weddings and a Funeral again, as if Mike Newell would be interested in doing it twice. That's another film which has acquired its reputation over the years, but at the time people were disaffected by its darkness." It's a fair enough point about an audience's unrealistic expectations, but An Awfully Big Adventure, with its seedily evocative portrait of a theatre company in dingy, post-war Liverpool, could only be confused with Four Weddings by the wilfully blind or incurably dim. The obvious successors to Four Weddings are Notting Hill and Bridget Jones's Diary, not just because of the Hugh Grant connection, but for the rather syrupy view of Britain they purvey. But surely these northern working-class films are just the equally sentimentalised flipside of the same coin? "Well, therein lies the danger," Rickman sighs. "And I'm sure that it's a danger here as well, that a country starts to cartoon itself in order to make itself acceptable to the market. I see no reason whatsoever why Britain, or Ireland for that matter, couldn't have made its own version of American Beauty. But we didn't." Why is that? "I'm not really sure," Rickman says. "I know that we used to have mature film-makers making mature stories. But it needs a sociologist or a marketing expert to explain these things. What is a northern English comedy? Why does Blow Dry have to be thought of in the same sentence as Brassed Off? What are the forces which come to bear on a story which is actually about the minutiae of small-town life, but which has to be blown up into something everybody understands? Market forces impose certain rules before a film can actually get made. "I want us to make some more grownup films, and I suppose in a way what it's about is we're only just recovering from the effects of 18 to 20 years of cultural torture. Half the time we're being yanked into the 21st century, while the other half of the country's trying to stay in the 18th century. It's difficult to tell your own stories in that situation." Some critics have pointed the finger at the influence of Miramax, the US company which, a decade ago, helped to bring the work of directors such as Jim Sheridan and Neil Jordan to US audiences. In those days, the argument goes, companies like Miramax came in at the end of the production process and bought the rights to finished films such as The Crying Game and My Left Foot. Now they're interfering with the scripts from the very start (Blow Dry, with its superfluous sub-plots and transplanted American teen actors, certainly seems to offer some support to this view). "But you can't make those generalisations," Rickman protests. "Miramax was also the company which rescued Dogma, which essentially involved somebody writing a personal cheque to save the film. Miramax also rescued The English Patient, at a point where Anthony Minghella was telling everybody they should just go home. So it depends which way you look at it." Dogma, Kevin Smith's absurdist take on Christian myths from a comic-book perspective, saw a memorable cameo from Rickman as the irascible angel, Metatron. He sees Smith as "part of a Renaissance in America, which is edgy and strong-minded and sexy and smart. Directors like Spike Jonze and Paul Thomas Anderson. I only saw Magnolia recently, and thought it was just brilliant." Rickman recently completed filming on the heavily-hyped Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, in which he plays Prof Severus Snape. This portrayal promises to be the latest in a long line of memorable character performances in major blockbusters, including the chief baddie in the original Die Hard. His wonderfully villainous performance as the Sheriff of Nottingham in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves allegedly caused Kevin Costner to commandeer the editing room to cut him down to size. He seems to have an uncanny knack for making good choices. Last year's endearing sci-fi spoof, Galaxy Quest, for example, hardly looked all that promising on paper, but has already built up a considerable cult following for its tale of a group of has-been TV stars who save the universe. "Well, it's a good, bright, sparky film," says Rickman. "People were surprised by it, but just ask for a minute: didn't you ever wonder why some of these people (costars Sigourney Weaver, Tim Allen, Tony Shalhoub and Sam Rockwell) were in it? We all read it and thought it was very original and affectionate. The director, Dean Parisot, was very smart, in that nearly everyone he cast was a theatre actor who could relate to the story. At rehearsal, he just said: "This is about you, this is your story.' " Two years ago, he made his own directorial début, with the low-key but welljudged domestic drama, The Winter Guest, starring Emma Thompson, and he's currently working on his next directorial project, which he describes as "love story set at the court of Louis XIV". "It takes such a big lump out of your life," he says of film directing. "So you have to know you want to do it. You know you're going to be pretty much out of action for a year. Then again, it's a privilege, and it can be a compulsion. In that sense, it's no different from being an actor. You read something and you want to say those words. As a director, the pictures start jumping off the page at you. But they're not just pictures; you want to tell that story. As a director, he says, he still has an awful lot to learn, "but I always knew that I would do it. It was just that I had to get to a point where the job was so strong that I felt I had something to say. It was always about trying to steer it towards something that I believed in. In terms of the visual side of it, that was just me rediscovering my own art school and design background". As a producer, he's currently working with the Irish actor/writer Conor McDermottroe, "who's written a wonderful screenplay of Eamon Sweeney's novel, Waiting for the Healer, which Pat O'Connor will direct". He hopes that film will shoot later this year. His most memorable role in Ireland up until now, of course, was as Eamon de Valera in Neil Jordan's Michael Collins. "Thank God, at least I'm not being stoned in the street here for having dared to try," he says. He is well aware of the controversy which his characterisation of de Valera provoked. "It's not so much a question of characterisation, though, as of certain scenes being left out," he says. "If I were sitting here with the de Valera family, I'd say: `Believe me, I spent a lot of time and energy fighting his corner, in terms of not judging him. But I can't answer for what the director or the studio do.' In the script, there was a very important moment - which was cut - which made it clear that he was not involved in the death of Collins. But other forces wanted the film to end on a romantic notion rather than a political one." He still thinks the film itself is "a fantastic achievement. What's the point of whingeing about it? It's the sort of story that it would need about 12 hours to tell properly, but that isn't going to happen. The fact that Neil got anywhere with it is miraculous." Does he think that, as an English character actor, there is a risk that he will be typecast as the bad guy all the time in Hollywood movies? "I've been asked that question before, but I really don't think it's true," he says. "I think if you look at American actors like De Niro, they spend most of their careers exploring the darker side. It's not my experience of the last 10 years, which is of pouring my energy equally into every job equally. Now when you've finished the movie, it either works or doesn't work, it has a huge publicity budget or no publicity budget. It gets vast distribution or it goes straight to video. But my memory is of six to eight weeks getting involved very deeply in a story and living the character, whether it's playing Rasputin in St Petersburg one minute or talking to 5,000 Dubliners as Eamon de Valera the next." He never, he says, has any idea how successful a film is going to be when he's working on it. "Some people say to ask the make-up department," he says. "But on Sense and Sensibility, they were an absolute voice of doom. As an actor, I think that innocence is hugely important to hang on to. You have to hand yourself over to the director." And directors? He gives that knowing smile. "Directors are much less innocent." Blow Dry opens next Friday |
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| Tim Sebastian: You don’t yet know him as Severus Snape, but thousands of you soon will. That’s his part in the new Harry Potter movie that’s set to break all box office records. Of course, you might already know him for his parts in Sense and Sensibility, Truly Madly Deeply, Die Hard, Dogma and many other roles that have made him one of Britain’s best known actors. So, with all that behind him, how far does he share in the Harry Potter hype?
Alan Rickman, a very warm welcome to the programme. Alan Rickman: Nice to see you. TS: You managed just to sneak in to the premiere, did you, to get the last half hour? AR: Yeah, about the last forty minutes because... I’m in Private Lives at the moment in the West End and we play Sunday matinees. TS: There’s a double bill of Rickman in the West End isn’t there? AR: Yeah, it depends on your taste! (Laughs) In the flesh or (gestures) blown up on celluloid. TS: How did you like it, what you saw? AR: It looked tremendous to me. I think the thing is that whenever...I was on the set and children were coming in and visiting, the endless refrain was, "Wow! It’s just like the book!" And I think that was certainly Chris Columbus’s and the producers' aim: to be faithful to J.K Rowling’s imagination. And I think, given the fact that at the end of the screening last night the entire cinema stood up and cheered, I guess they’ve done it! (Smile broadens) TS: That’s their reaction, but what about yours? Is it worth the hype in your view? AR: Well, it’s worth any amount of hype to get children to read again, and in these kind of numbers, and... to have that kind of passion about sitting down in a corner turning pages of a book instead of, you know, pressing on computer keys all the time and just playing Playstations, and--. TS: Did you buy into the fantasy? AR: Buy into it in what sense? I mean, I-- TS: I remember you saying once in order to be really good at something you have to be wholly absorbed by it. AR: Well, when I read the book I completely--. I didn’t stop turning the pages. So yes, in that sense. It’s a great story in a long line, long tradition, of that kind of story-telling. TS: Are you amazed that it’s going to set box office records? For merchandising as well? AR: No, I’m not amazed. It’s...caught the public imagination, and--. I mean, in a sense, the hype is incidental. The hype is hanging on to the coat-tails of something... sort of elemental, really. TS: Are you going to get a decent share? AR: (Laughs) TS: I know that this is something that you've been campaigning for - you and British actors and Equity - to get a decent share, compared to your American counterparts. AR: Well, yeah, we're--. We’ve been taken advantage of for far too long, and we're, I'm not talking about people who are--, whose names are sort of above the title. I’m talking, as indeed we all are, about the people whose livelihood depends on a reasonable return when they-- TS: A proper rate for a day’s work? AR: Well, their work is shown for the next fifteen, twenty or thirty years and that’s probably when their working life is sort of over, to any large extent. It would be good for them to know that, when a film is shown, their work can receive some recompense. TS: Are you receiving adequate recompense this time round? AR: I think you’d better ask my agent! (Smiles) TS: (Laughs) Well it’s clearly something’s that rankled because you’ve said in the past something has to be done about this, this is an absolute disgrace. I mean, you clearly feel strongly about it- AR: Well, it is a disgrace. TS: --you and other actors. AR: I think it’s a disgrace that English actors get taken advantage of. It’s very different here. TS: Paid a flat-rate, this is the problem isn’t it? AR: Buy-out. TS: A buy-out? But then you don’t have to agree to it do you? AR: Well, you don’t have any option. You don’t do the job. TS: That’s it? It’s a take it or leave it option is it? AR: Absolutely. That’s why the union is now fighting for it to make it part of...Equity agreements. TS: You used to rail against having to go to Hollywood to make big movies. Do you still do that? Do you say it’s awful that we all have to toddle off to Hollywood? Do you still wish these kinds of movies could be made by British-- AR: We all say lots of stupid things that, you know, you wish you could take back. (Smiles.) TS: (Laughs) Which we religiously dig into and bring up again years later! AR: Yeah, I'd like to rub them out. But there they are: you’re hoist by your own petard all the time and--. Well, I now have some experience of a town that I’m actually very fond of, and it's filled with very close friends. TS: LA? AR: Yeah.....If I go there, I have a kind of rule which is: don’t read the trades -- trade magazines-- and don’t go to any premieres and parties and all of that. So I work there and I live there and I see my friends and...travel-- [indistinguishable] TS: (Talking over Rickman) There is an LA without premieres and parties? AR: Well, you’ve got to get on your bike a bit, if you can find a bike, or in a car or walk. Yes, absolutely: there’s some fantastic countryside and great people, and--. TS: You said it was awful and disgusting at the same time? AR: That’s true too. Well, wonderful and disgusting, probably, at the same time. It's a town --it's very small, you know. The centre of it is utterly devoted to an industry and it doesn't--. Well, I say "the centre": it's actually a contradiction in terms as it hasn’t really got one. So, you have the life there that you want to have. And...that, to me, is renting a house in the hills and seeing friends, and reading books, and going to the movies. TS: A place where British actors do extraordinarily well. I mean, it was a huge vote of confidence in this film, the Harry Potter film, that there was an entire British cast wasn’t it? AR: Well, it was a measure of J.K. Rowling’s power, because it wasn’t going to be that way. TS: She insisted on it? AR: Uh-huh. (Nods assent) TS: How hard a fight was that? AR: I think if it’s in her contract--. She just... dug her heels in, you know. She’s got a wonderful sense of when to say no! TS: What does it say-- the part-- about the point you’ve reached in your career? AR: Harry Potter? TS: Yes. Did it stretch you? Did you get a buzz out of it? AR: (Quietly) No, not hugely.... It’s great fun to be part of something that’s going to be a kind of marker point, I suppose, in cinema history. Whatever people make of the film on any critical level, it’s an event ... like the Beatles. And--. TS: So, as events sometimes do open more doors, is that the idea? Is that why you took the part? AR: No, I mean at this point in time I kind of do what interests me. And where...I feel that I'm going: actually I think that my job is to be a storyteller, and actors are very much part of a storytelling chain. There’s...the piece of work and one side of it’s the performer and the other side of it’s an audience, and--. Well, I should say, there’s the piece of work, the actor’s in the middle between the piece of work and the audience, and it’s my job to be as efficient a storyteller as possible. And to look for as many interesting avenues as... come up. And you can never predict what you’re going to say yes and no to ‘cause it’ll probably depend on what you just did. TS: But you said the job gets harder and harder. You said a few years ago, "The more you understand what you’re capable of, the less the instrument can do it physically." AR: It’s true-- TS: Really? AR: -- because the more you kind of understand what, you know--. The imagination has a whole load of ideas and the equipment (laughs; pauses; smiles) seems to be less and less capable of matching the imagination! (Smiles broadly) TS: Why? You’re a young man - I mean, you’re painting yourself as having waning, failing powers almost? AR: No, I think you’re just more and more aware of the disparity between the two. TS: That you’re not living up to what the part is asking of you? AR: Maybe your imagination grows (gestures) or something. You know, in rehearsals for Private Lives, Lindsay Duncan and I would both say to the director, "You know, you have to realise that we’re right up against the edge of our ability here." (Smiles) TS: In what way? Why? Why are you up against the edge? AR: Well, I think we only discovered it through rehearsals that this was --. We discovered our love of the play in rehearsals, and...that came out of a deep respect for the skill of its construction. And when you start to eventually analyse how a piece of work is constructed, it sort of asks you to be in a Restoration comedy in the first act, to switch to Chekhov in the second act, and [to] finish up in Feydeau in the third. And those are very different horses to ride. (Smiles) TS: Wide range? AR: Yes, and you need to have your feet in the saddle quite firmly.... And so I think that at every performance of that, certainly you’re aware of how difficult the job can be. But also of how much fun. And the same is true of Harry Potter. And you have to use your instrument very differently, you know. On film you’re perhaps spending most of the time waiting to work and so you’ve got to keep that energy release in check...but not let it go to sleep. TS: And do you feel some nights when you go on in Private Lives, for instance, that you can’t ride those horses? AR: It’s a very unpredictable thing. The nights when you’re feeling most tired and most... remote from being in any way capable of doing it, you go out there and some piece of alchemy happens and you’re freer. The nights when you’re feeling free in the wings and you go out there, then suddenly something tightens up. I don’t know, maybe we need the equivalent of a sports psychologist. TS: But you don't expect to be a machine. -- But you’re not a machine, you’re not a robot. AR: No, no, no. It’s a live event and so you’re at the mercy of... some version of the elements when you go out there. TS: You make it sound very unpredictable. AR: It is. Unpredictable-- TS: Does it feel that way? AR: --and so it should be. (Nods) Yeah. TS: Edgy, dangerous? AR: Well, the play, the actors--? TS: Could come unstuck? AR: Could come very unstuck. And has. TS: People don’t know that though, when they pay their money, do they, for their ticket? AR: They don’t have a clue, but you can feel it! (Laughs) TS: Think they’re getting Alan Rickman - professional, after all these years. AR: You feel moments when it comes unstuck and the whole audience knows that something’s gone wrong and a certain silence descends ‘cause they’re suddenly aware that you’re an actor and you’re not--. They don’t believe in you, in the character, for that second. Then you’ve got to work hard for the next five minutes going, "It’s okay, it’s okay. I do know what I’m doing." (Laughs). TS: To get them back. AR: "--ish." [i.e., "sort of, in a manner of speaking, to some degree."] TS: "I haven’t forgotten my lines." (Laughs) Something like that…Playing Antony at the Royal National Theatre: not a happy experience by all accounts? AR: Um, I’ve actually never talked about that. And it was-- TS: No, everybody seems to talk about it on your behalf. AR: Indeed they do: and like a lot of things where you read about yourself in the press, you think, "Where on earth did they get that piece of garbage from?" It’s--. What can I say about that? It's--. I resent if ever in print it’s called a failure as a production, because they never point out that it played for eight weeks to completely sold-out houses, which doesn’t often happen at the Olivier Theatre, which seats eleven hundred people at every performance. And we did eight shows a week so--. It’s hard to--. You’ve got to re-evaluate the word ‘"failure’" on that level. Plus, the letters that one had from people saying "I don’t understand what they were talking about." TS: The critics, that is? AR: Who, I have to say, in all honesty, I don’t read (a negating gesture): it doesn’t help me. And so I have no idea what they’ve specifically said. I get a general idea. TS: Does it hurt you--- AR: Well, because I don’t know-- TS: --when they say, "Well, that was bad", or people tell you what the critics have--? AR: (Quickly) Well you can be hurt I’m sure. I don’t know, maybe you’d get hurt by criticism, I don’t know. Perhaps everybody does; I don’t think anybody reaches a point where you’re inured to it. But: what I would say about that production is, if I had my time again, not only would I approach it in the same way, but I’d go even further down the same avenue. What I think people were not certain about was--. You see, most of the time these days critics tend to write about...how actors do something; they don’t very often write about what actors are doing. And conscious choices are involved. It’s not an accident; it’s not like we’re getting it wrong; it’s actually a choice. And-- TS: People suggested though, there was an argument - that you were unhappy about the way it was produced. AR: No, that was complete rubbish. Total rubbish. I read stuff after we’d opened about how Helen Mirren and I weren’t getting on. I’ve never been closer to an actress onstage than I was in that production. And offstage the greatest of friends. It was absolute rubbish. But people wanted to create some kind of furore offstage as well as on. But in terms of the production: I mean, I don’t know how much people know the play, but: we’re talking about two...leaders of the world, and at a certain point in their lives. I was playing somebody who was basically an alcoholic. And I think people got very upset that they weren’t seeing a great hero. The point about the play, to me, is that you see these childlike people who were once great and they’re now reduced to being drunk, rowing, throwing things at each other--. Little domestic scenes where she’s trying to pin his armour on and he’s saying, "No, no, not like this. Like this." It’s the most extraordinary deconstruction of a... great duo (gestures with two hands) and they’re presented as little children. TS: And people argue over this in the press, and they argue over it by word of mouth. Don’t you ever wish you were in another profession, where you could just win a race and walk away with a prize, instead of having everybody sort of pick over what you’ve done night after night, day after day? AR: Well, we’re no different to writers or poets or any other--. Well, in fact we are different because we interpret, we don't actually create in that sense, but-- TS: You don't watch yourself in films, do you? AR: Er, not if I can help it. No, it doesn't -- thrill-- me. TS: And you don't talk much about the theory of acting, but there was one point where you were asked about it and you said, "The camera likes you if it can see you thinking and, most importantly, listening." Which is, perhaps, a strange thing for an actor to say, because most people would think you were judged on what you said, rather than-- AR: Yes, but you only speak as a human being in life and, therefore, if you're trying to reproduce life onstage -- and whenever I've worked, talked to students or, indeed, worked with young actors, when I was directing The Winter Guest as a movie particularly-- I have an absolute mantra which is that you only speak because you wish to respond to something you've heard. So, the notion of an actor going away and looking at a speech they have in their bedroom alone at night is a complete nonsense to me. You're--. What you have to say is completely incidental. All I want to see from an actor, to me, is the intensity and accuracy of their listening. And then what you have to say will become automatic. And then it will be free, and alive. And you then can work on it and shape it and talk about it, but the basic kind of engine to it is: how accurate is your listening and how alive are you to your fellow actors; and how accurate is your response and how...bold? TS: You mention The Winter Guest, which started out as a play and then you co-wrote the screenplay for that. This was-- AR: "--ish." (Makes an equivocal, "so-so" gesture) It's a kind of...slightly inaccurate credit. I mean, every word of that screenplay is Sharman Macdonald's, but I was very much involved in the restructuring of it-- TS: As the director, and this was your debut-- AR: --yes, so that became a kind of writing credit. TS: Learned a lot about acting from being a director? AR: Well, we learned, all of us I would say learned, the most from the two twelve-year-olds. TS: Why? AR: It's like when you're a child. Do you know that moment when you paint a landscape as a child and, when you're maybe under seven or something, the sky is just a blue stripe across the top of the paper? And then there's that somewhat disappointing moment when the teacher tells you that the sky actually comes down in amongst all the branches. And it's like life changes at that moment and becomes much more complicated and a little bit more boring, as it's rather tedious to fill in the branches, and--. TS: You were a pretty dreamy child yourself, weren't you? AR: So they say: yes, yes. Head in the clouds, and off dreaming. -- But, anyway, these boys knew nothing else but to listen to each other. TS: Talk to me a bit about your childhood. It wasn't an auspicious start for a would-be actor was it? AR: Well, what would be an auspicious start? TS: In the sense of opportunities. AR: I went to a school--. Well, all the schools I went to had all sorts of drama involved -- particularly my eleven- to eighteen-year-old school, Latymer-- which were very formative in terms of wanting to be an actor. TS: Were they? And you had a lot of support from your mother didn't you? AR: Yeah. I mean, in the sense that I had a mother and a family who basically said, "Whatever makes you happy." Because it must seem a bit odd if a son says, "I'm going to give up a career as a graphic designer and go back to being a student and go to drama school." TS: You father died when you were very young didn't he? AR: (Very quickly) Yeah, when I was eight. TS: Which was a huge scar. You've talked about that quite a lot - it doesn't go away really does it? AR: Well, it doesn't because, you know, I come from a working class family where you--. Perhaps these days you're allowed to participate in events like that....In the past, I think [you got] somewhat annexed from your feelings, you know. TS: You mean participate in the death? I mean you didn't go to the funeral? AR: We didn't go to the funeral because--. Well, I actually think now that my mother was so distraught that she couldn’t have coped with having her children there as well. But it was a strange thing not to be there. And it's a difficult thing. It's not explained to you why you're not there. But, you know, that was then, when there was a kind of "seen and not heard" ethic. (Very small smile) TS: Quite political as a person? AR: Well I grew up--. One of the images of my childhood that I'll never forget is, every time there was an election, was my parents -- including my father but particularly my mother-- standing on a chair pinning...or sticking her yellow --they were then yellow and black-- square turned that way round (gesturing with his hands to indicate square turned through 45 degrees to form a diamond) "VOTE LABOUR" stickers in the window. TS: They've talked of you as a candidate a couple of years back. AR: Rubbish. More rubbish! TS: Nobody ever came to you? Nobody ever suggested it? AR: I think they tried it on because somebody in a press office somewhere thought they're not going to let Portillo have all the publicity without any challenge, so they thought, "What can we do? I know: let's sling an actor up against him!" TS: Labour insiders were brought out to say that Alan Rickman was a distinct possibility for Kensington and Chelsea. AR: Well, they certainly never talked to me about it and of course the answer would have been No! Because why would one--. If you were going to do it, why would you do it in a completely safe Tory seat? And I have no political ambitions in that way anyway, so it was com-plete nonsense. TS: But you do have causes don't you? Amnesty International is a cause that you back? AR: Uh, yes. Various people, like Children on the Edge I work a lot with and Action Aid, and--. You constantly try to make sense of your life and I've been very lucky and, as I say, I see myself as a storyteller. I therefore see my job as somewhat connected to real life and, I hope, the choices that I make indicate a desire to connect with an audience. So er, yeah, real life intrudes. Like, you know, with Action Aid. I'm involved at the moment with the launch of a new book, called Broken Landscape, of photographs by Gideon Mandell. And, given what's happening at the moment in the world, things get upstaged. And you've got a situation in Africa where a thousand children are dying every day. It's a huge figure to ignore. TS: People always ask actors what part they want to play but there was one politician in the Labour Party, Peter Mandelson , says he wants you to play him if there's ever a film made of him. How do you feel about that? AR: (Smiles) Depends on the script, I suppose. I mean, it's difficult playing real people. I've done that a few times, and it's --. Or people who have lived as it were: you know, what with De Valera and Rasputin. And you have very particular luggage on your back when you do that and you become very protective... of those people. Neil Jordan said to me, when I started doing the research on De Valera for Michael Collins, "So do you hate him yet?" before we'd started. And that made me put on such a pair of boxing gloves, because you can't judge your characters; that's the last thing you can ever do. You've got to go in there... informed, but innocent. TS: Alan Rickman, we watch with interest who you put the gloves on for next time. Thanks very much indeed. (Sebastian and Rickman shake hands.) AR: My pleasure. TS: Thank you. |
Everyone thinks Alan Rickman is a bad guy, but the silver-tongued thesp tells Stephanie Bunbury he's more like the kindly drifter in his latest film.
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Ask anyone outside the movie business and they will tell you Alan Rickman plays villains. It's not hard to understand why. His big break in Hollywood came when he played the evil dude in the first Die Hard film, complete with a comedy German accent. (I know, it's hard to believe that as recently as 1988, World War II was still the primary source of villainous voices. Even now, you can't go wrong with a Nazi.) Soon after that, he played the perennially unpleasant Sheriff of Nottingham with magnificent, flourishing hatefulness in Kevin Costner's Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. On stage, his benchmark role was as Valmont in Les Liaisons Dangereuses, a sociopath for whom life was a perpetual game of cat and mouse. Even Rickman's current starring turn, as the funereal Hogwart's teacher Severus Snape in the Harry Potter series, draws strength from the audience's expectation that any character he plays may well turn to the bad - or, in Potter-speak, the Dark Side. In real life, however, Rickman tends to sigh when people ask him about playing the bad guy. He hasn't played a real baddie, he says heavily, in years. Even going back over his filmography, he was never actually typecast. He was, admittedly, one of the walking dead in Truly, Madly, Deeply (1991), but benevolent with it. Eamon de Valera (Michael Collins, 1996) was, by his own and many other people's lights, a hero. In Galaxy Quest (1999), my favourite Rickman movie, he was only bad in the sense that an irascible, irritating person would be a bad travelling companion on an involuntary space trip. If his choices demonstrate anything, it is that can play anyone. "As in anything in life, but particularly in acting," Rickman says drily, "I think it's called 'presenting a moving target'." Anyway, he finds the whole idea of playing the villain irrelevant to what he does. "I just don't see people as one thing or the other," he says in that famous drawl. "Being an actor is about not judging the characters you play. It's odd for me even to have just one word applied to a character. You don't see yourself as good or bad. You just see yourself as a person who has these needs. And get on with being that person." In his latest role, as a drifting British former convict in Marc Evans' independent film Snow Cake, he plays a man who is unexpectedly kind. We first see Alex Hughes sitting morosely in a roadside diner in Canada, a stranger in a strange land, when a kooky young girl (Emily Hampshire) approaches him for a lift. Against his inclinations, he takes her. Then a truck drives into them. The girl is killed. Alex, who was not going anywhere much, decides to change course for his passenger's hometown of Wawa, a tiny and terribly cold place in northern Ontario, with the inchoate hope of offering help. There he meets the girl's mother Linda - played with fierce commitment by Sigourney Weaver - who turns out to be acutely autistic. She loves snow; she is fanatically clean; she is competent to do methodical work, but she can barely function in social terms. Even so, a strange bond of comfort forms between them. Alex Hughes, says Rickman, is more like him than any other character he has played. "He's very close to me, because I enjoy playing someone who is just doing his best. That's me." Speaking after the film's first screening at the Berlin Film Festival, he is puzzled by people who ask whether he would go to see the parents of a girl who had died in an accident in his car. "I think you would. There are times when you just have to hope for the best with an event in your life. And I think that is one of the things the film is about; it's almost Chekhovian. It's: 'You know what? There are times when you've just got to roll up your sleeves and get on with it'." He loved making the film - especially with Weaver, his old friend from Galaxy Quest, who brought her star wattage to the project at his behest - and living in a small town of peculiarly Canadian friendliness. "There's a community to filmmaking," he says, "and when you're in a small town, it's even stronger." The snow was melting by the time they were ready to shoot, but locals helped out by raking up snow and storing it in their sheds, out of the sun, then bringing it out in wheelbarrows when it was needed. "And I have a big memory of the diner in Hawk Junction, because we spent many days there making the car-crash scene. That woman makes the best rhubarb pies." He loves the film, too, he says, his voice lifting for a moment with enthusiasm. "It's funny, full of light and hope. I hope people get it." People certainly got it in Berlin: reporters searched for superlatives to praise the moving simplicity of the story, the authenticity and pathos of Weaver's performance and Rickman's taut, sexy turn as the town outsider. It found its ranks of enemies, however, when it was released a few months later in North America and Britain. "A sanctimonious little affair" wrote one critic, who went on to query whether a man "mooching around town like the saddest camel on Earth" would really be beset, as Alex is, with come-ons from practically every woman in town. Especially - he did not say this, but you could see the words hanging over the page - at his age. Rickman is now 61. Every day, he said soon after his 60th birthday, he looked in the shaving mirror and waved goodbye to another role. "Suddenly, you're 20 years too old for all those roles you planned to do." But while he may never play Hamlet again, he has recently had a succession of complex, substantial roles that include, as well as Alex in Snow Cake, Antoine Richis in Tom Tykwer's adaptation of Perfume, Sweeney Todd for Tim Burton, and the lead in another independent film, Nobel Son, in which he plays a bullying father who is also a Nobel Prize-winning physicist. Yes, he says sardonically, he is still very much here. Along with "a lot of other baby boomers. And we're still in our jeans". Rickman did not set out to be an actor. It didn't seem to be in his stars, either, as a boy growing up on a council estate in Acton, a drab bit of west London. When he was 12, however, he won a scholarship to a private boys' school that encouraged his artistic leanings. From there he went to art school and studied graphic design, only choosing acting in his late 20s. "I'd been doing it anyway, with amateur groups, and it was always just the most important thing to me," he says. "But you have to get one thing out of your system. We were very successful, our graphic design group, so it wasn't like one still thought there were ladders to climb. We'd sort of got there. We weren't making any money, but we were having exhibitions and doing really good work. So I thought, 'This is it', you know. It was time to do that other thing." He doesn't draw any more but, occasionally, when he has been directing theatre or his one film, The Winter Guest, he has sketched something to show crew what things should look like. He knows, too, that having a trained eye helped him in directing. "So, I don't know, there is some scheme out there. Everyone has bits of themselves that get used. Or not. It feels the kind of thing I'll get back to." Rickman met his partner, Rima Horton, while he was at art school. He was 19: they have been together, in a very un-showbiz way, for more than 40 years. She is now a university lecturer in economics and has stood twice for election as a Labour candidate, albeit in safe Conservative seats. Rickman is also politically engaged. One of his most recent projects was a theatrical adaptation for London's Royal Court of the diaries of a young Washington anti-war activist, Rachel Corrie, who was run down when she tried to stop an Israeli bulldozer destroying a Palestinian home. The play became something of a cause celebre last year when an independent theatre in New York dropped it from its schedule when Hamas was elected, blaming "the very edgy situation". Rickman denounced the move as "censorship". "I had to say that, didn't I?" he said some months later. "The real irony for me was that we had a situation where two independent theatres were in some kind of conflict which, given the world we are living in, was a great pity." In all this time, we have barely mentioned Harry Potter. Rickman always avoids it - "I don't want to play with something that has to do with children's innocence" is a typical riposte - but it is the boy wizard who has given him enough leverage to get films such as Snow Cake made. And, of course, he likes playing the professor of potions, whom he sees as "quite an insecure person, always longing to be something else that people will really respect". "At this point, it's good to have done something for children," he says. "I like the fact it's persuaded children to read. If I'm going to be working when I'm 80, I need them as my audience." He gives a faint, Snape-like smile that suggests he might prefer them as his next meal. Perhaps it was a glimpse of his forthcoming Sweeney Todd. He's a very funny man, but he does make a good villain. Snow Cake opens on Thursday.Six great Alan Rickman momentsJamie in Truly, Madly, Deeply, 1991 On second viewing, Minghella's schmaltzy weepy calls more for buckets than hankies, but Rickman's frosty ghost is much sexier than the music therapist who replaces him. Love the scene where he invites his dead mates around to watch Woody Allen videos. Sheriff of Nottingham in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, 1991 Rickman gives great panto villain in this silly film, and out-vamps his enemy in a fetching black leather ensemble. "That's it, then," he snarls. "Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings, and call off Christmas." Colonel Brandon in Sense and Sensibility, 1995 Although Rickman is strangled as much by his preposterous period neckwear as by his hidden passions, he proves a worthy suitor for flighty Marianne (Kate Winslet) in this top-shelf Austen adaptation by his great mate Emma Thompson. Sir Alexander Dane in Galaxy Quest, 1999 Rickman spoofs Leonard Nimoy and Patrick Stewart in this underrated comedy about superannuated sci-fi actors blasted into space. As the show's resident grand thesp, Rickman delivers creaky catchphrases ("By Grabthar's hammer") until he finally cracks: "I was an actor once, damn it! Now look at me. Look at me! I won't go out there and say that stupid line one more time." Harry in Love Actually, 2003 In the only tolerable segment of this slice of festive treacle, Rickman teams up with Thompson again to play a cranky boss who combines shaggy sexiness with appalling bastardry. We forgive him, a little, when he gives Laura Linney some advice: "Invite him out for a drink and then after about 20 minutes, casually drop into the conversation the fact that you'd like to marry him and have lots of sex and babies." Professor Severus Snape in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, 2004 The third and best film gives the professor plenty of screen time to be ambiguously hateful: it's the juiciest role in the entire series. The scene in the shrieking shack where he plays off his two high-school rivals, Sirius Black (played by Gary Oldman) and Professor Lupin (played by David Thewlis), is beautifully malicious. |